Planning Committee (Wirral Council) (27th June 2013) APP/13/00398: 11 Templemore Road, Oxton, CH43 2HB – Single Storey Garage

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Cllr Alan Brighouse: because she has a petition of over twenty-five signatories, could she speak?

Cllr Bernie Mooney (Chair): No, well, I gave her, I gave her the opportunity before.

Petitioner: I actually put this on ….

Cllr Bernie Mooney (Chair): I gave the option, if the petitioner wanted to speak before and the ward councillor came forward first, I’m sorry.

Petitioner: I particularly …

Cllr Bernie Mooney (Chair): Right I’m, I’m, ….

Petitioner … wanted to speak to the errm

Cllr Bernie Mooney (Chair): I’m awfully sorry, errm the chance was given in my estimation which you didn’t take so I’m awfully sorry errm,

Petitioner (whispers): It’s terrible.

Cllr Bernie Mooney (Chair): It’s up to the Committee, I’m going to throw it open to the Committee, I, I, I gave the petitioner the chance that she could come up and address the Committee…

Petitioner: No I did, I did.

Cllr Bernie Mooney (Chair): OK, errm right well the Committee has said there’s no problem, so you can you come forward to address the Committee?

Petitioner: Thank you very, very much.

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Planning Committee (Wirral Council) (27th June 2013) APP/13/00398: 11 Templemore Road, Oxton, CH43 2HB – Single Storey Garage

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Cllr Bernie Mooney (Chair): Errm, open to err debate? Has anybody got anything to say about that?

Cllr Phil Brightmore: The single … of the talk to the meeting by Cllr Brighouse.. terms of exactly what, what relevance, can we give to past planning decisions that have effect?

Matthew Rushton: Errm through you Chair, I think I’ll answer the second point first as that’s probably the easiest to answer. Errm all planning applications have to be assessed on their individual merits. So, whilst planning history is relevant if its a material consideration each individual application has to be considered on its individual merits.

So in the past officers, the Committee and the errm Inspectorate have taken the view that previous applications that have dealt with the same are dealt with on their individual merits. It was right to say there was an application not so long ago for a considerably larger garage errm which was forward to the building line. Err in fact it sat just about here errm on the plot and errm in terms of its size it reflected pretty much the broad area of the existing house of the of the existing house but what… and so it was right that it was refused and it was right that that was dismissed at appeal.

This is a much smaller garage errm with a sloping roof err to the side of the property, errm I think Cllr Brighouse talked about errm a 40%, 90% increase. It’s probably in between that so … Errm going forward, the adjacent property at number thirteen, errm what you see on the plan is the original outline, that’s the outline of the original development. The occupiers of that property extended the conservatory to the side of that errm to the side of that dwelling so it essentially runs out here down the side of the boundary and there’s a small loop to the back.

Those Members who were at the site visit on errm Tuesday would’ve seen that there’s quite a high fence that runs along the boundary and there is some vegetation that grows over the top of that fence and there is a large tree that sits in the garden of number thirteen which creates darkness to that conservatory anyway.

I think that Matt made reference to his presentation the direction of the sun throughout the day. Errm this garage this garage wouldn’t impact on errm on any light or sunlight in the conservatory more than what exists at present, so that’s why we’ve taken the view that errm in this instance because of the location of the garage it wouldn’t have any impact on the amenities of thirteen, but I think that it’s important to clarify that the occupiers have almost if you like prejudiced themselves by extending on the side of their property with a conservatory and shouldn’t necessarily be used to prejudiced against neighbours when they want to extend as well.

Err just one final point to make it is that there is considerable history on this site, errm but there have been considerable changes to planning policy, not least the National Planning Policy Framework and as you know as it err came to the last Committee. The Government are doing all they can to encourage households to extend their own homes by relaxations to the permitted development rights. This doesn’t fall within the PD rights because it’s a side extension rather than a rear extension, errm but hopefully that decision …

Cllr Alan Brighouse: Chair?

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Planning Committee (Wirral Council) (27th June 2013) APP/13/00574 5 Speedwell Drive, Barnston, CH60 2SY Change of use of garage to dog grooming parlour

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Cllr Denise Realey: Can I then move approval of the officer’s recommendation?

Cllr Joe Walsh: I’ll second that.

Cllr Denise Realey: For approval.

Cllr Joe Walsh: I’ll second that. I’ll second that.

Cllr Bernie Mooney (Chair): Hang on hold on a minute they had indicated what it is … to hold on as we had a debate so it’s his movement first. Ermm, …

Cllr Anita Leech: Errm, it’s just literally a point of clarification really, errm the actual terms about the number of dogs a day doesn’t seem to include a bank holiday Monday.

Matthew Davies: Errm through you Chair, I think we would add then that there are no dogs on a bank holiday Monday.

Cllr Anita Leech: Thank you.

Cllr Bernie Mooney (Chair): Right back to David, David?

Cllr David Elderton: Thank you Chair, I mean I’d just like to comment before I start by saying that the fact you’re trying to start a business is absolutely commendable and I fully support what you’re trying to do. It’s my concern that it would be an inappropriate development in a residential area, it’s simply relating to that associated issue but what I would like to move is that on the basis of granting refusal the Local Planning Authority considers that, by reason of noise and general disturbance likely to be generated, the proposed development would be detrimental to the amenities that the occupiers of adjoining properties could reasonably expect to enjoy. The development would thereby conflict with the provisions of Unitary Development Planning policy HS15. I move that.

Cllr Bernie Mooney (Chair): So we’ve got a mover for refusal and we’ve got a seconder. So, first of all we’ll take a vote on refusal, those for refusal, ok and against. I’ll abstain. I really can’t make my mind up.

Cllr David Elderton: That’s six appear to be [for (Cllrs Elderton, Clenents, Mountney, Hayes and Foulkes] and five [against (Cllrs Realey, Brightmore, Leech, Walsh and Kenny], in favour of refusal when you’ve abstained.

Cllr Bernie Mooney (Chair): I’m awful sorry for the confusion.

Cllr Denise Realey: I propose a small adjournment while people leave.

Cllr Bernie Mooney (Chair): Err, please refrain from saying anything like that while the members of the public leave, thank you very much.

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