Will councillors vote to gag a debate on whether Girtrell Court decision is made in public?

Will councillors vote to gag a debate on whether Girtrell Court decision is made in public?                                                     In a surprise twist, the debate on a notice of motion on Girtrell Court has become like the thought experiment Schrödinger’s cat. The reason the debate might not be heard is because of Standing Order 17(1) in Wirral … Continue reading “Will councillors vote to gag a debate on whether Girtrell Court decision is made in public?”

Bernard Halley (left) talking about Girtrell Court at the Wirral West Constituency Committee 11th February 2016 L to R (foreground) Bernard Halley, David L to R (background) Graham Hodkinson, Cllr Matthew Patrick

Will councillors vote to gag a debate on whether Girtrell Court decision is made in public?

                                                   

Bernard Halley (left) talking about Girtrell Court at the Wirral West Constituency Committee 11th February 2016 L to R (foreground) Bernard Halley, David L to R (background) Graham Hodkinson, Cllr Matthew Patrick
Bernard Halley (left) talking about Girtrell Court at the Wirral West Constituency Committee 11th February 2016 L to R (foreground) Bernard Halley, David L to R (background) Graham Hodkinson, Cllr Matthew Patrick

In a surprise twist, the debate on a notice of motion on Girtrell Court has become like the thought experiment Schrödinger’s cat.

The reason the debate might not be heard is because of Standing Order 17(1) in Wirral Council’s constitution (see page 162:

17. Rescission of preceding resolution

(1) No decision of the Council (including a decision taken by a committee or panel under delegated powers) may be reconsidered by the Council on a notice of motion within six months of the date of the earlier decision unless the notice of motion (under Standing Order 7) is signed by 17 members of the Council. If that motion is rejected by the Council neither it nor one to the same effect can be considered by the Council for six months.
 

However standing order 17, doesn’t apply to debates on large petitions, which are dealt with according to Wirral Council’s petitions scheme.

In the case of a petition of at the time of writing 6,593 signatures the petition scheme states “Petitions that must be considered by the Council – these must be signed by at least 3,000 people who live in the Borough”.

So in order for there to be a debate on Girtrell Court tonight either:

(a) Councillors could decide to suspend standing order 17 to allow the debate on Girtrell Court to go ahead, or

(b) Bernard Halley submits his large petition which triggers a fifteen minute debate as debates on petitions aren’t subject to standing order 17 or

(c) Councillor Blakeley finds fifteen other councillors to sign his notice of motion and therefore the debate goes ahead.

Tonight’s public meeting of Wirral Council will start at 6.00pm in the Council Chamber at Wallasey Town Hall, Brighton Street, Seacombe, CH44 8ED.

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15 thoughts on “Will councillors vote to gag a debate on whether Girtrell Court decision is made in public?”

    1. Well I’ll see what happens tonight! In the meantime here’s a reminder of the Nolan principles that all councillors signed up to:

      Selflessness
      Integrity
      Objectivity
      Accountability
      Openness
      Honesty
      Leadership

      1. You mean John

        “The Pretend Friend”

        “Phil the Very Very Deluded Dill”

        “Ankles”

        “Phil the Dill’s Ugly Twin Brother with the Comb Over from Hell”

        “Crapapple”

        They signed up to the Nolan principles?

        John, you egit these scum bags thought they were signing up to the Nalon leaving from Kev and Stella’s Stinking Stagnant Wirral Waters and cruising the Spanish river NALON.

        For god’s sake they are dyslexic as well.

        Ooroo

        James

        IF THEY VOTED TO CLOSE LYNDALE AND GIRTRELL COURT

        DON’T VOTE FOR THEM.

  1. G’day John

    Their local rubbish propaganda sheet

    Chester council chief calls it a day

    A job for Ecca, probably closer to home, and they won’t have to change the name on his dunny door.

    Ooroo

    James

    “Spotty Dog” about as effective and efficient as “The Spotty Blue Teapot”.

  2. G’day John

    The rubbish paper over Kev and Stella’s Stinking Stagnant Wirral Waters

    Peel seeks investors and partners to build 23,500 new homes across Liverpool and Wirral Waters

    Is there an election coming up or is it just another of AdderleyDadderlyDooLally project dream like the five new golf courses on Wirral..

    Ooroo

    James

  3. G’day John

    Their local rubbish propaganda sheet

    Council on target to tackle ‘significant backlog’ of Wirral street light repairs

    There must be an election coming up John and I presume “Dick Whittington” wants to get to London to see the queen instead of the orrible “Crapapple”.

    Ooroo

    James

    Did he vote to close Lyndale and Girtrell Court?

    They should be hung from their broken down lamp posts.

  4. G’day John

    Hope you had a good meeting last night.

    Don’t forget

    IF THEY VOTED TO CLOSE LYNDALE AND GIRTRELL COURT

    DON’T VOTE FOR THEM

    When I was an auditor John I would always read the middle of a report twice and you will never guess what you would find hidden.

    So I randomly looked at “The Pretend Friend’s” bit for last night.

    Former MOD site in Old Hall Road, Bromborough – Members have approved the sale of this site in Old Hall Road, Bromborough, to SamWa (UK) Investment Group. It is proposed to develop an International Trade Centre on the twenty-acre site. Heads of Term are presently being negotiated.

    Hoylake Golf Resort – If this project proceeds the Council will contribute a large
    proportion of the land holding required by way of a Development Agreement, and new Municipal Course will be created.

    You can often find a gem hidden John.

    Just saying

    Ooroo

    James

  5. G’day John

    IF THEY VOTED TO CLOSE LYNDALE AND GIRTRELL COURT

    DON’T VOTE FOR THEM

    They can still afford

    Sanwa Investment provides global sales and distribution consulting services to mid-sized companies seeking to expand to new international markets.

    IF THEY VOTED TO CLOSE LYNDALE AND GIRTRELL COURT

    DON’T VOTE FOR THEM.

    Ooroo

    James

  6. G’day John

    IF THEY VOTED TO CLOSE LYNDALE AND GIRTRELL COURT

    DON’T VOTE FOR THEM

    They can still afford

    Hoylake Golf Resort – If this project proceeds the Council will contribute a large
    proportion of the land holding required by way of a Development Agreement, and new Municipal Course will be created.

    IF THEY VOTED TO CLOSE LYNDALE AND GIRTRELL COURT

    DON’T VOTE FOR THEM.

    Ooroo

    James

    John the reason I picked “The Pretend Friend’s” blurb is that if you follow a rat you will find rat *hit.

    This rat ratted and *hat on “Highbrow”.

  7. G’day John

    IF THEY VOTED TO CLOSE LYNDALE AND GIRTRELL COURT

    DON’T VOTE FOR THEM

    There’s not an election looming is their John?

    Their local rubbish propaganda sheet

    Girtrell Court campaigners given stay of execution in fight to keep care centre open

    IF THEY VOTED TO CLOSE LYNDALE AND GIRTRELL COURT

    DON’T VOTE FOR THEM

    Ooroo

    James

    How cynical John they think everyone is as STUPID AS THEM.

    IF THEY VOTED TO CLOSE LYNDALE AND GIRTRELL COURT

    DON’T VOTE FOR THEM

    1. Yes there are two elections looming on the Wirral. There’s the election of a local councillor in each ward and the election of a police and crime commissioner for Merseyside too.

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