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Posted by: John Brace | 26th October 2012

Employment and Appointments Sub-Committee (Wirral Council) Appointment of a Strategic Director (Families and Wellbeing)

Present (6/7,3:2:1)
Employment and Appointments Sub-Committee
Committee Room 2, Wallasey Town Hall

26th October 2012 3pm

Cllr Lesley Rennie, Conservative
Cllr Jeff Green, Conservative
Cllr Patricia Williams, Liberal Democrat
Cllr Phil Davies, Labour
Cllr Ann McLachlan, Labour
Cllr Adrian Jones, Labour
Cllr George Davies (from 15:30 (agenda item 3)), Labour

Committee Services
Andrew Mossop (Committee Clerk)

Not Present (Legal adviser)
Wirral Council officers

Chris Hyams, Head of Human Resources and Organisational Development
Graham Burgess, Acting Chief Executive
David Armstrong, Deputy Chief Executive
Unknown male
Unknown female

Press/public (agenda items 1-3)
J and L Brace

The meeting originally scheduled for 3pm started at 3.06pm. There were no microphones used.

1. Appointment of Chair
Andrew Mossop asked for nominations for Chair.
Cllr Ann McLachlan proposed a nomination for Cllr Phil Davies.
Cllr Adrian Jones seconded a nomination for Cllr Phil Davies.
There was a vote on the nomination for Cllr Phil Davies for Chair by show of hands.
Andrew Mossop asked if there were any other nominations for Chair?
No other nominations for Chair were made.
Cllr Phil Davies was therefore appointed Chair of the Employment and Appointments Sub-committee (unopposed). Cllr Phil Davies got up from his seat and walked to the Chair’s chair in the room and sat down.

The Chair (Cllr Phil Davies) asked for any declarations of interest?

2. Declarations of Interest
No declarations of interest were made.

3.  Exclusion of the press and public
Cllr Phil Davies proposed the following recommendation on the advice of a Council officer:-

“That in accordance with section 100A (4) of the Local Government Act 1972, the public be excluded from the meeting during consideration of the following item of business, on the grounds that it involves the likely disclosure of exempt information as defined by the relevant paragraphs of Part 1 of Schedule 12A to that Act. The public interest test has been applied and favours exclusion.”
This was agreed.

A member of the public (the author of this blog) asked why the resolution didn’t include the paragraph/s number and asked if they were required to include theparagraph or paragraph number in the resolution?

The Chair Cllr Phil Davies said he would seek advice on the subject. He sought advice on the subject and was also given advice by Cllr Jeff Green that it was paragraph 1. His resolution was amended to:-

“That in accordance with section 100A (4) of the Local Government Act 1972, the public be excluded from the meeting during consideration of the following item of business, on the grounds that it involves the likely disclosure of exempt information as defined by the paragraph 1 of Part 1 of Schedule 12A to that Act. The public interest test has been applied and favours exclusion.”
The amended resolution was put to the vote and agreed. The press and public were excluded for agenda item 4 (Appointment of Strategic Director: Families and Wellbeing).

The public made their way to the door to leave the room.
Cllr George Davies arrives.
The public left the room.

Agenda Item 4 Appointment of Strategic Director: Families and Wellbeing

The councillors now including the late Cllr George Davies considered the applications for the new post of Strategic Director (Families and Wellbeing).

The following resolution was agreed:

That the following 5 candidates be long listed for the next stage of the selection process which shall be for officer interviews on Tuesday, 13 November – candidate numbers, 2, 3, 4, 5 and 6.

Transcript

Andrew Mossop: any nominations for the Chair?

Cllr Ann McLachlan: I nominate Phil Davies.

Andrew Mossop: Chair, err, Cllr Phil Davies, is that seconded?

Cllr Adrian Jones: Yes.

Andrew Mossop: Are there any other nominations?

Cllr Phil Davies: Right, OK, err folks, … see you’re busy…errm Item 2 this is a standing item, Members Code of Conduct Declarations of Interest. Has anyone wish to declare any interests?

No, OK, no interests, errm, item 3, is item for you to agree the exemption to exclude the members of the public from the meeting. Is that agreed?

Various councillors: Agreed.

John Brace: Sorry, there are no reasons in it, but the case law says there has to be reference to a paragraph, so errm is it possible to give the reasons,

Cllr Phil Davies:

John Brace: that’s supposed to be in the resolution you passed you see but unfortunately it’s missing from the agenda.

Cllr Phil Davies:
Cllr Jeff Green: on the basis of paragraph 1, I can suggest we actually go carry forward the exemption.

Cllr Phil Davies: So we should agree on the basis of paragraph 1?

John Brace: Is that agreed on paragraph 1?

Cllr Phil Davies: Is that agreed on the basis of paragraph 1?


Responses

  1. When this secretive charade was conducted for BIll Norman and David Garry, we had to wait almost a month for an answer. How long will we wait for our news here??

    • Thank you for your comment. Sadly it wasn’t my decision not to be present for agenda item 4. I’ve asked the committee clerk (by email) for a copy of the draft minutes for item 4, but unfortunately I couldn’t hang around and wait for the meeting to end then go back in and ask as there was no way of telling how long the meeting would last!

      I doubt the email will be read before Monday, so some time next week Monday 29th October 2012 at the earliest and ~November 8th 2012 at the latest? It’s one of the downsides of having a meeting meet on Friday afternoon as sadly I had another thing to go to that was starting at 4pm. You could ask someone else who was there for agenda item 4 I suppose as to what happened.

    • P.S. Just for clarity this is the Employment and Appointments Sub-Committee, not the similarly named Employment and Appointments Sub-Committee (Compromise Contracts). 🙂

    • I have a date of 8th November 2012 given to me now when the “draft minutes” will be published on Wirral Council’s website, so you’ll just have to wait a week and a half, unless you know how to speed it up?

      • Why would I want to speed it up, when the whole process stinks to high heaven?!

        • Well personally I prefer to know sooner rather than later, as if you know later it’s usually too late to stop anything happening.

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