Chief Fire Officer recommends new fire station at Saughall Massie and closure of fire stations at West Kirby and Upton
Chief Fire Officer recommends new fire station at Saughall Massie and closure of fire stations at West Kirby and Upton
Dan Stephens (Chief Fire Officer) answers questions at a public consultation meeting in Saughall Massie to discuss proposals for a new fire station (20th April 2015)
There are four agenda items on the agenda of next week’s Merseyside Fire and Rescue Authority public meeting that relate to the decision about the future of West Kirby Fire Station and Upton Fire Station.
First (item 3) is a petition asking for Merseyside Fire and Rescue Authority to “Stop the building of the Fire Station in Saughall Massie and the destruction of precious green belt land”. At the time of writing this petition on the change.org website has 321 signatures. The comments of the signatories can be read here.
According to section 11.3 of the constitution for Merseyside Fire and Rescue Authority:
“The presentation of a petition shall be limited to not more than 5 minutes and shall be confined to reading out or summarising the subject of the petition indicating the number and description of the signatories, and making such further supporting remarks relevant to the petition as the person presenting it shall think fit.”
Section 11.4 to 11.7 of the constitution deal with the procedure for deputations:
“11.4 Any person likely to be affected by a matter in relation to which the Authority has functions, (other than employees in relation to matters of conditions of service) may ask that a deputation should be received by a meeting of the Authority. Such a request shall be made to the Proper Officer at least seven working days before the meeting to which it relates. The person making the request shall indicate the matter to which the request relates, the number (which shall not be more than five names and addresses of the persons who will form the deputation, and the member or members of the deputation who will speak for them).
11.5 On being called by the Person Presiding, the person or persons speaking for the deputation may make, during a period not exceeding five minutes, such remarks as she/he or they think fit, providing that the remarks shall relate to the matter indicated.
11.6 The Members of the Authority may, during a further period not exceeding five minutes for each deputation, ask questions of the members of the deputation. Such questions shall be asked and
answered without discussion.
11.7 Petitions shall be presented, and deputations received in the order in which notice of them is received by the Proper Officer, without making any distinction between petitions and deputations.”
This agenda item comprises of a report detailing the Chief Fire Officer’s recommendations to councillors (the following is quoted from the report and is the Chief Fire Officer’s recommendation (Wirral MBC stands for Wirral Metropolitan Borough Council and fire appliance means fire engine):
“a. approve the merger of Upton and West Kirby fire stations at a new station on Saughall Massie Road, subject to agreement from Wirral MBC to transfer ownership of the land to the Authority and the granting of planning permission;
b. approve the relocation of the West Kirby fire appliance to Upton to be crewed wholetime retained as an interim measure prior to the construction of the new station
c. amend the capital programme to incorporate the Saughall Massie fire station scheme; and
d. give delegated authority to the Chief Fire Officer (CFO) to continue discussions with partners, including Merseyside Police and North West Ambulance Service, with a view to sharing the new building.”
There are of course other options that are in theory available to councillors (but I’ll make it clear these are options which the Chief Fire Officer doesn’t recommend). These other options include the outright closure of West Kirby Fire Station and the relocation of the West Kirby fire engine to Upton Fire Station.
Due to the sheer volume of responses to this consultation, whatever I write below is going to leave something out. However I will do my best to summarise some of the responses to the consultation.
The people of Saughall Massie are opposed to a fire station being built at the proposed site (currently owned by Wirral Council) on Saughall Massie Road. There are a variety of reasons given ranging from traffic, green belt issues, noise/disturbance and concerns that building on the Saughall Massie Road site is inadvisable due to regular flooding.
Merseyside Fire and Rescue Service paid Opinion Research Services £19,195.00 (a spin out company of Swansea University) to do a report for the consultation. Their 49 page report details the results of a range of polling techniques including focus groups, a forum and a postal residents survey.
The deliberative forum for Saughall Massie found opposition to a new fire station there. Most of the group they asked from Upton were also opposed to the use of a greenbelt site at Saughall Massie, but at the same time supported a new fire station in the Saughall Massie area. The West Kirby group & the all Wirral forum were in favour of the Saughall Massie site being used for a new fire station. However ORS does state “deliberative forums cannot be certified as statistically representative samples of public opinion”.
A postal questionnaire was also sent out by ORS to 10,000 households (5,000 to the West Kirby Fire Station area and 5,000 to the Upton Fire Station area). Out of the 1,351 postal questionnaires that were returned a majority in both Upton (51%) and West Kirby (70%) areas went for option one (merging Upton and West Kirby fire stations by building a new fire station in Saughall Massie).
However these findings come with caveats as ORS also state:
“However, consultation is not a numbers game, in which the majority view necessarily prevails (like in a referendum), so the Fire Authority will wish to consider carefully all the arguments, evidence and considerations relevant to this case before taking its decision based upon its assessment of the public good.”
“As a resident of West Kirby and a mother of three young children I object to the proposals to close West Kirby fire station.
This is a ridiculous and dangerous proposal and directly increases the risk of death, from a house fire, to my family.”
“Also please provide a credible reason as to why, in a democratic and fair society, the residents of Saughall Massie’s overwhelming feelings of resistance to this proposed fire station are being overridden by the local Labour Council when equal or lesser feelings of resistance by those in Greasby were considered in full and their request to reject the proposed building of this facility (on a brown field site) was granted.”
“I live next to Saughall Massie Road and during the morning and evening “rush hours” it’s very heavily congested to a far greater extent than other local roads at these times. ”
“I object to the proposed fire station in Saughall Massie because:-
lives could be lost as Saughall Massie Road is already congested. Between 8am and 9.30am Mon-Fri – severe congestion
no open space for dogs & horses to run free
our properties will de-value
damage to wildlife habitats”
“Re Fire Station Saughall Massie Road
I would like to register my disapproval at the above. Building on Greenbelt land is out of order.”
“I would hope that you agree that Monday night’s fiasco did not satisfy the criteria as a meaningful consultation exercise. Having said that, you must be aware that the overwhelming views of the residents, both inside and on the pavement outside, was that this development does not take place at all within our precious ‘Green Belt’.”
“Proposal for a fire station, Saughall Massie, Wirral
I am writing to express my concerns over the proposal to build a fire station on the greenbelt land at Saughall Massie. I live directly opposite the suggested site and am disappointed to learn of this proposal which I personally use at least twice a day to both exercise my dog and meet up with other local residents. There is also a great deal of wildlife and the beautiful Jenny’s Wood. There are water voles, bats, owls to name a few and I am sure that many of these beautiful creatures will be affected by this build if it goes ahead.
I wish to register that I am totally opposed to the build and wish my feelings to be noted.”
The Merseyside Fire and Rescue Authority will make a decision on the future of the fire stations at Upton and West Kirby at a public meeting starting at 1.00pm on Tuesday 30th June 2015 in the Liverpool Suite, ground floor, Merseyside Fire and Rescue Service Headquarters, Bridle Road, Bootle, L30 4YD. The agenda and reports for that meeting can be found on their website.
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Wirral Council published on the 14th May 2015 details of contracts, commissioned activity, purchase orders, framework agreements and any other legally enforceable agreement of between £5,000 and £10,000 on the data.gov.uk website here.
The first contract that caught my eye was one for £6,950 with Odgers Interim (which if you remember a previous blog post of mine is an organisation that provides agency staff). The title of the contract is “consultancy support of Windows 7 & ICT Services” and its description is “10 Days Consultancy in Support of Windows 7 & ICT services to Elected Members Total £6,950.00”. Elected Members means councillors.
Wirral Council also spent £5,000 with England’s Golf Coast Limited for “Annual Membership to England’s Golf Coast”, £6,812.30 with an organisation called Assist Managed Services for a week of cleaning up New Brighton in July 2014, £5,000 with a company called O’Neill PR based in Macclesfield for “Tourism PR at the Open Golf Championship 2014”, £5,854.45 for catering at a wedding on the 16th August 2014 to a Skelmersdale based catering company (although this will have been recharged to whoever paid for the wedding), £8,000 to AMION Consulting Limited for “Development of a vision for Wirral’s tourism strategy to sustain and grow the Borough’s visitor economy” described as for “developing a vision for Wirral’s Tourism businesses a 5 year strategy for the Borough’s visitor economy”, £9,847.80 to Huck Nets Limited for a piece of play equipment called a Birds Nest Tree at Diamond Farm, Saughall Massie, £7,498.48 to Wirral University Teaching Hospital NHS Foundation Trust for a “Family Planning Course”, £7,597.13 for a “Viking Playship” from Hags-SMP Limited, £6,510.00 to H&G Healthcare Limited for 100 “flu vaccination vouchers” in October 2014, £6,533.99 to AECOM Limited for a “Wirral Docks Bridge Feasibility Study” and £9,570 to Exterion Media (UK) Ltd to “supply poster sites for the Wonders of Wirral Spring Campaign”.
Whereas I’m generally a fan of increased transparency involving Wirral Council, in the description field published on the data.gov.uk website about a payment for £9,275.74 to Autism Initiatives, Wirral Council have included the full name of the child or adult with autism. In the context of services provided by Autism Initiatives this would also be classed as “sensitive personal information”. Also in two payments to West Kirby Residential School (a special school) for school fees, Wirral Council have revealed the name of two children by the information published on the website. Again in the context this would be classed as “sensitive personal information”. Maybe Wirral Council needs to think again whether it is being too transparent in these sensitive areas?
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What I scanned in today was part of one of the schedules about land. Included below is the Bebington headlease along with the index page for the schedules.
The Council’s Design and Building Contract Direct Agreement
Part 3
The Council’s Support Services Management Direct Agreement
Part 4
Design and Building Contract Performance Guarantee
Part 5
Support Services Management Agreement Performance Guarantee
Part 6
Initial Senior Funding Agreements
Part 7
Other Initial Funding Agreements
Part 8
Rules for Refinancing
SCHEDULE 3
WORKS
Part 1
Design Development Procedure
Wirral Borough Council Wirral Schools Services Limited PFI contract Index of Schedules Schedule 3 (Works) to Schedule 9 (Insurance) page 2 of 4
Part 2
Prohibited Materials
Part 3
Schedule of Key Dates
Part 4
Outline Design Documents
Part 5
The Completion Standards
Part 6
Decant Programme Methodology
Appendix 1
Decant Programme: Park High
Appendix 2
Decant: Further Obligations
Part 7
Handback Requirements
Part 8
Project Programme
Part 9
Construction Site Rules
Part 10
Handback Survey
SCHEDULE 4
PAYMENTS
Part 1
Definitions
Part 2
Services Contract Payment
Part 3
Performance Deduction Look-Up Table
Part 4
Table of Service Units per School
Part 5
Monitoring
Part 6
Utility Services
Part 7
Third Party Use
Part 7A
Catering
Part 8
Value for Money Testing
Appendix 1
Form of Performance and Payment Report
SCHEDULE 5
ACCOMMODATION SERVICES OUTPUT SPECIFICATIONS
SCHEDULE 6
SUPPORT SERVICES OUTPUT SPECIFICATIONS
Part 1
Building and Asset Maintenance Output Specification
Part 2
Support Service Requirements and Performance Tables
Part 3
Service Level Agreements
Part 4
Service Level Agreements Alteration Procedure
SCHEDULE 7
REPORTS AND RECORDS
Part 1
Reports
Part 2
Records
SCHEDULE 8
VARIATIONS
Variation Notice
SCHEDULE 9
INSURANCE
Wirral Borough Council Wirral Schools Services Limited PFI contract Index of Schedules Schedule 9 (Insurance) to Schedule 19 (Admission Agreements and Bonds) page 3 of 4
Part 1
The Part 1 Insurance Period
Part 2
The Part 2 Insurance Period
Appendix 1
Endorsements
Appendix 2
Broker’s Letter of Undertaking
Appendix 3
Business Interruption Insurance – the Authority’s Obligations as Insurer
Appendix 4
Schedule of Insured Parties
SCHEDULE 10
LIAISON COMMITTEE
SCHEDULE 11
COMPENSATION ON TERMINATION
Part 1
Definitions
Part 2
Project Co Default
Part 3
Authority Default
Part 4
Notice by the Authority
Part 5
Force Majeure, Uninsurability and Planning Challenge
Part 6
Corrupt Gifts
SCHEDULE 12
DISPUTE RESOLUTION
SCHEDULE 13
SENIOR REPRESENTATIVES
SCHEDULE 14
COMPENSATION EVENTS
SCHEDULE 15
METHODOLOGY FOR ASBESTOS
Appendix 1
MB Wirral Policy
Appendix 2
Asbestos Survey Risk Assessment
SCHEDULE 16
LIQUIDATED DAMAGES
SCHEDULE 17
QUALITY SYSTEMS
Part 1
Design and Build Period Quality System
Part 2
Operational Period Quality System
Appendix A
Quality Policy
Appendix B
Certificate of Approval
Appendix C
Proposed QA Implementation Plan
Appendix D
Contact Directory
Appendix E
Local Procedures
SCHEDULE 18
EMPLOYEES
Part 1
Employee Information
Part 2
Terms and Conditions of Employment
SCHEDULE 19
ADMISSION AGREEMENTS AND BONDS
Part 1
Jarvis Workspace FM Limited
Wirral Borough Council Wirral Schools Services Limited PFI contract Index of Schedules Schedule 19 (Admission Agreements and Bonds) to Schedule 24 (New Moveable Equipment Schedule of Rates) page 4 of 4
Part 2
Compass Group PLC
Part 3
MTL Commercial Limited
SCHEDULE 20
STAFF SECURITY PROTOCOL
SCHEDULE 21
OPERATIONAL SITE RULES
SCHEDULE 22
DRAFT TRANSITIONAL SERVICES AGREEMENT
SCHEDULE 23
CITY LEARNING CENTRE
SCHEDULE 24
NEW MOVEABLE EQUIPMENT SCHEDULE OF RATES
Wirral Borough Council Wirral Schools Services Limited PFI contract Schedule 1 Land Part 1 Bebington Headlease page 1 of 13
SCHEDULE 1
LAND
Part 1
Bebington Headlease
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DATED 2001
(1) WIRRAL BOROUGH COUNCIL
(2) WIRRAL SCHOOLS SERVICES LIMITED
HEADLEASE
-of-
Bebington High School, Bebington Road
Bebington, Merseyside
THIS LEASE IS A NEW TENANCY FOR THE
PURPOSES OF THE LANDLORD AND TENANT
(COVENANTS) ACT 1995
ROWE & MAW
20 Black Friars Lane
London EC4V 6HD
Tel: 020 7248 4282
Fax: 020 7248 2009
Ref: 709/476/27909.00001
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CONTENTS
Clause
Subject Matter
Page
1.
Definitions and Interpretation
4
2.
Demise and Rents
6
3.
Tenant’s Covenants
6
4.
Landlord’s Covenants
8
5.
Agreements and Declarations
8
6.
New Tenancy
9
Schedule 1
(The Premises)
Schedule 2
(Easements and Rights granted)
Schedule 3
(Rights excepted and reserved)
Schedule 4
(The documents (if any) containing incumbrances to which the Premises are subject)
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THIS LEASE made the day of 2001
BETWEEN:
WIRRAL BOROUGH COUNCIL of Town Hall, Brighton Street, Wallasey, Wirral, Merseyside, CH44 8ED (the “Landlord”); and
WIRRAL SCHOOLS SERVICES LIMITED having its registered office at Frogmore Park, Watton-at-Stone, Hertfordshire SG14 3RU (registration number 4115637) (the “Tenant”).
WITNESSES as follows:
1. DEFINITIONS AND INTERPRETATION
1.1 Definitions
In this lease the following expressions have the respective specified meanings (subject to any particular interpretation required by clause 1.2):
“Adjoining Premises” means any land or buildings neighbouring or adjoining or adjacent to the Premises;
“Buildings” means the buildings now or hereafter during the Term at the Premises and “Building” means any one of them;
“Permitted Use” means use of the Premises to comply with the obligations and exercise the rights of the Tenant under the Project Agreement;
“Perpetuity Period” means the period of eighty years from the date hereof which is the perpetuity period applicable to this lease;
“Plan” means the plan attached hereto;
“Premises” means the Premises described in Schedule 1;
“Project Agreement” means the agreement entitled Project Agreement made between (1) the Landlord and (2) the Tenant dated and as varied from time to time under Clause 32 thereof or supplemented or any other agreement superseding that agreement or substituted for that agreement and in either case expressed to be made subsequent to it;
“Rent” means a peppercorn, if demanded, per annum;
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“Service Media” means all sewers drains pipes gullies gutters ducts mains channels wires cables conduits flues and any other conducting media;
“Services” means soil water electricity gas compressed air telecommunications signals and other liquids gasses or signals capable of passing along or through Service Media; and
“Term” means a term of 30 years from and including the date hereof subject to the provisions for the prior determination of the Term hereinafter contained;
1.2 Interpretation
(1) Words importing the singular include the plural and vice versa and words importing one gender shall include both genders.
(2) Where a party comprises more than one person covenants and obligations of that party take effect as joint and several covenants and obligations.
(3) A covenant by the Tenant not to do (or omit) any act or thing also operates as a covenant not knowingly to permit or suffer it to be done (or omitted) and to prevent (or as the case may be to require) it being done.
(4) References in this lease to:
(a) any clause sub-clause schedule or paragraph is a reference to the relevant clause sub-clause schedule or paragraph of this lease and clause and schedule headings shall not affect the construction of this lease;
(b) the Premises shall be construed as extending to any part of the Premises and shall include all and each and every part of any:
(i) Buildings from time to time thereon;
(ii) Service Media within the Premises and exclusively serving the Premises;
(iii) additions alterations and improvements thereto; and
(iv) Landlord’s fixtures and fittings therein;
(c) any statute (whether generally or specifically) shall include all derivative instruments orders regulations and in each case any re-enactment or modification thereof from time to time.
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2. DEMISE AND RENTS
Subject to compliance by the Tenant with its obligations under the Project Agreement the Landlord DEMISES unto the Tenant ALL THAT the Premises TOGETHER WITH the easements and rights (in common with the Landlord and all others with its authority or otherwise from time to time entitled thereto) specified in Schedule 2 which shall enure for the benefit of the Tenant and all those expressly authorised by the Tenant EXCEPT AND RESERVING to the Landlord and all other persons from time to time entitled to the rights mentioned in Schedule 3 TO HOLD the Premises unto the Tenant for the Term SUBJECT to:
(a) the provisions contained or referred to and rights granted to any party in the documents specified in schedule 4 insofar as they relate to the Premises;
YIELDING AND PAYING therefor during the Term to the Landlord the Rent payable annually in advance the first payments being made on the date hereof.
3. TENANT’S COVENANTS
The Tenant COVENANTS with the Landlord:
3.1 Pay rent
To pay the Rent without deduction set-off or counterclaim at the times and in the manner aforesaid.
3.2 Use
Not to use the Premises for anything other than the Permitted Use.
3.3 Easements
(1) Not to obstruct any window or light or abandon any easements from time to time enjoyed by the Premises.
(2) To give immediate written notice to the Landlord of any encroachment on or circumstances which might result in the acquisition of any easement or other right over the Premises and at the Tenant’s expense to take or join in such proceedings or take such other steps as the Landlord may require to prevent any such acquisition.
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3.4 Incumbrances
To comply with all covenants and other matters relating to the Premises (and in particular those contained or referred to in the documents specified in schedule 4) so far as they are enforceable and still subsisting.
3.5 Alienation
(a) The Tenant shall not assign, underlet, charge, hold on trust for another, part with or share possession or occupation of the whole or any part or parts of the Premises except as may be permitted or required by this lease. For the avoidance of doubt, nothing in this Clause 3.5(a) shall prevent the Tenant from charging the whole of the Premises in favour of any person providing funding under the Funding Agreement (as defined in the Project Agreement) from time to time.
(b) Notwithstanding the terms of Clause 3.5(a) the Tenant must assign the whole of the lease to a permitted assignee of the Tenant’s interest under the Project Agreement, such assignment of this lease to take place simultaneously with the assignment of the Project Agreement.
(c) The Tenant shall not underlet any part or the whole of the Premises without the consent of the Landlord save that the Tenant shall be permitted to grant an underlease of the whole of the Premises to the Landlord on the date hereof in the form of the underlease annexed to the Project Agreement.
3.6 Overriding lease
If at any time during the Term the Landlord shall grant a tenancy of the reversion immediately expectant on the determination of this lease whether persuant to section 19 Landlord and Tenant (Covenants) Act 1995 or otherwise any covenant on the part of the Tenant to obtain the consent of the Landlord under this lease to any dealing shall be deemed to include a further covenant also to obtain the consent of the lessor under such tenancy to such dealing.
3.7 Permit Entry
To permit the Landlord and any others authorised by the Landlord to enter the Premises on reasonable notice at reasonable times (except in emergency) to ascertain that the covenants on the part of the Tenant in this lease are being observed and performed and to enable the Landlord to exercise his rights or fulfil its obligations
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under the Project Agreement subject to complying with the obligations of the Landlord under the Project Agreement.
3.8 Project Agreement
The parties to this lease agree that where the provisions of this lease and the Project Agreement conflict, the terms of the Project Agreement shall prevail.
4. LANDLORD’s COVENANT
The Landlord covenants with the Tenant that the Tenant paying the rents and complying with its obligations under this lease and the Project Agreement may peaceably hold and enjoy the Premises during the Term without any interruption by the Landlord or any person lawfully claiming through under or in trust for it.
AGREEMENTS AND DECLARATIONS
PROVIDED ALWAYS AND IT IS AGREED AND DECLARED
5.1 Exclusions
(1) The Tenant shall not have the benefit of any easement right or privilege other than those expressly hereby granted.
(2) Any rights granted or reserved by this lease in respect of anything which does exist at the date hereof shall be effective only if it comes into existence before the expiry of the Perpetuity Period.
(3) The Landlord gives no express or implied warranty that the Permitted Use will be or remain a lawful or authorised use under the Planning Acts or otherwise.
(4) So far as the law shall allow the right of the Tenant (or any undertenant) to compensation on quitting the Premises is excluded.
5.2 Notices
Clause 54.10 of the Project Agreement shall apply in respect of any notices or other communications served or required to be served hereunder.
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5.3 Termination
If the Project Agreement is terminated for any reason or expires the Term shall automatically determine without notice but without prejudice to any claim by one party in respect of any antecedent breach of any obligation of the other under this lease.
5.4 Exclusion of Landlord and Tenant Act 1954
Having been authorised to do so by an order of the Court made on under section 38(4) of the Landlord and Tenant Act 1954 (as amended) the parties agree that the provisions of sections 24 to 28 inclusive of the Landlord and Tenant Act 1954 (as amended) shall be excluded in relation to the tenancy hereby created.
NEW TENANCY
This lease is a new tenancy for the purposes of the Landlord and Tenant (Covenants) Act 1995.
IN WITNESS whereof this lease has been duly executed as a deed (but not delivered until) the day and year first above written.
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SCHEDULE 1
(The Premises)
The land and buildings and structures known as Bebington High School Higher Bebington Road Bebington Merseyside shown for the purpose of identification only edged in red on the Plan.
SCHEDULE 2
(Easements and Rights granted)
1. Subject to the Tenant not interfering with any rights granted to any tenant under any lease existing at the Execution Date full right and liberty at any time at the cost of the Tenant to divert (both to the whole and any part of it) the route of any Service Media which the Landlord has the right to use pursuant to Schedule 3 of this Lease whether temporarily or permanently provided that:-
1.1 the Tenant shall give reasonable prior written notice of any such diversion to the Landlord and any other person so entitled;
1.2 all works of diversion shall be carried out in a proper and workmanlike manner in accordance with good practice current at the time and with good quality suitable and sufficient materials as to provide the Landlord and any other person so entitled with Service Media of at least equivalent size quality and capacity to those with are being diverted;
1.3 so far as possible the passage or running of the Services through such Service Media shall not be disrupted and the Tenant will provide temporary arrangements during any period of diversion of permanent Service Media.
2. A right to build upon and to demolish maintain repair replace and renew any buildings upon the Premises to enable the Tenant to comply with or perform its obligations and exercise its rights under the Project Agreement.
3. A right of support and shelter for the Premises from any Adjoining Premises owned by the Landlord.
4. A right (subject to the provisions of paragraph 1 of this Schedule) to the free and uninterrupted passage and running of all services from and to the Premises through and
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along all Service Media from time to time within but not exclusively serving any Adjoining Premises.
SCHEDULE 3
(Rights excepted and reserved)
1. A right for the Landlord and all those authorised by the Landlord to enter upon the Premises for the purpose of fulfilling any obligations on the part of the Landlord pursuant to the Project Agreement and for all purposes mentioned in this lease but subject to complying with the obligations of the Landlord in the Project Agreement.
2. A right (subject to the provisions of paragraph 1 of Schedule 2 of this Lease) to the free and uninterrupted passage and running of all services from and to any Adjoining Premises through and along all Service Media from time to time within but not exclusively serving the Premises.
3. A right for the Landlord and all those authorised by the Landlord to enter those parts of the Premises which are not built upon at all reasonable times (having regard to the Tenant’s obligations under the Project Agreement) on giving reasonable notice (except in emergency) and the right to inspect construct lay maintain repair replace alter or renew any Service Media and to make connections to any Service Media within the Premises the person exercising this right doing as little damage and causing as little inconvenience as possible and making good any damage to the Premises thereby occasioned and carrying out all works in a proper and workmanlike manner in accordance with good practice current at the time and with good quality suitable and sufficient materials and at no time shall the exercise of the Landlord’s rights under this paragraph 3 interfere with the Tenant’s obligations under the Project Agreement.
4. All rights of light or air now subsisting or which might (but for this exception) be acquired over any other land.
5. A right to build upon and demolish maintain repair replace and renew any buildings upon any part of any Adjoining Premises owned by the Landlord and any other land owned by the Landlord in such manner as the Landlord may think fit.
6. A right of support and shelter from the Premises for any Adjoining Premises owned by the Landlord.
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Schedule 4
(The documents containing incumbrances to which the Premises are subject)
The rights, reservations, covenants and other matters referred to in the Registers of Title Number MS435412.
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THE COMMON SEAL of WIRRAL ) BOROUGH COUNCIL )
was affixed to this Deed in the )
presence of: )
…………………………………….
As authorised officer
THE COMMON SEAL of WIRRAL ) SCHOOL SERVICES LIMITED )
was hereunto affixed in the presence of:)
Director
Director/Secretary
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Incredible: Why did ICO find Wirral Council twice broke the law by taking too long to reply to 2 requests?
Incredible: Why did ICO find Wirral Council twice broke the law by taking too long to reply to 2 requests?
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A bit like the experience I had recently of waiting ages for a bus in Liverpool recently, only for four buses back to back to turn up, the Information Commissioner’s Office have in the last fortnight issued two decision notices involving FOI requests to Wirral Council.
The decision notice states “As the information was disclosed outside the 20 working day timescale the Commissioner has concluded that the Council breached the requirements of regulation 5(2). ”
I made the request on the 26th January 2015. Wirral Council ignored my request, so on the 24th February 2015 I requested an internal review. Wirral Council responded to the internal review on the 23rd March 2015 stating it had the information but was withholding it based on a regulation 12(5)(e) exemption.
“(5) For the purposes of paragraph (1)(a), a public authority may refuse to disclose information to the extent that its disclosure would adversely affect
(e) the confidentiality of commercial or industrial information where such confidentiality is provided by law to protect a legitimate economic interest;”
“Following your complaint to the Information Commissioner’s Office, the Council has decided to reverse its position, having previously relied on the exception contained in Regulation 12 (5) (e) of the Environmental Information Regulations 2004. I do not consider that releasing the information would now adversely affect the legitimate economic interest of a third party. The address of the property, which you have requested is 13 Thorneycroft Street, Birkenhead. I have copied this response to the Information Commissioner’s Office.”
As mentioned in my opening sentence, I’m also aware of a decision notice involving a Freedom of Information request that’s been issued recently that hasn’t yet been published on ICO’s website.
“2. The Commissioner’s decision is that the Council has breached section 10(1) of FOIA by failing to respond to the request.
3. The Commissioner requires the public authority to take the following steps to ensure compliance with the legislation.
The Council should inform the complainant whether the requested information is held. If the information is held it should provide it to the complainant or else issue a refusal notice in accordance with section 17 of FOIA.
4. The public authority must take these steps within 35 calendar days of the date of this Decision Notice. Failure to comply may result in the Commissioner making written certification of this fact to the High Court (or the Court of Session in Scotland) pursuant to section 54 of the Act and may be dealt with as a contempt of court.”
and
“9. On receipt of the complaint the Commissioner contacted the Council to remind it of its duty to respond to requests for information within 20 working days and to ask that it respond to the complainant. Neither the complainant nor the Commissioner received a response.”
as well as
“11. The complainant made his request for information to the Council on 6 May 2014 but has failed to receive a response. The Council has clearly exceeded the 20 working day limit very significantly and therefore the Commissioner has found that the Council breached section 10(1) in its handling of the request.”
Certainly the common theme running through the two decision notices is Wirral Council exceeding the time limits in the legislation on responding to requests.
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Dan Stephens (Chief Fire Officer) answers questions at a public consultation meeting in Saughall Massie to discuss proposals for a new fire station (20th April 2015)
One of the long running sagas that this blog has reported on has been the future of Upton and West Kirby fire stations. Merseyside Fire and Rescue Service have had two twelve week consultations on this in the last year. The first consultation was on the controversial Greasby library/community centre site in the heart of Greasby village. However in a dramatic U-turn following opposition Wirral Council who owned the site in question withdrew it from consideration part way through the consultation.
The second consultation, which finished on the 18th May and provoked similar levels of opposition to that shown in Greasby but for different reasons also involved a piece of land in Wirral Council’s ownership in Saughall Massie. A decision by Merseyside Fire and Rescue Authority following the second consultation is expected towards the end of June.
The emails make for interesting reading. As there are so many emails in three bundles of correspondence I may split this into different blog posts with half of the first bundle of emails below.
I haven’t included copies of the maps that were provided, however if you wish to view them, they’re on the Whatdotheyknow website. I haven’t corrected any typographical errors in the emails below.
Timmins, Kieran
From: Timmins, Kieran Sent:25 September 2013 18:31 To: NyreeCollinson@Merseyfire.gov.uk CC: Henshaw, Janet (Legal); Woods, Stewart; ColinSchofield@merseyfire.gov.uk Subject: Request for sites
Nyree, Please can you forward this to David Ball/David Armstrong at the Wirral. Thanks.
Thank you for a very useful meeting. As we discussed the authority has approved the attached report:-
A Strategic Overview of Estates – Identification of Key Priorities PDF 38Kb
To consider Report CFO/12/13 of the Deputy Chief Executive, concerning a review of the property portfolio of the Authority and recommendations for savings in light of the forecast significant reductions in funding. Additional documents
As I highlighted, we are currently at the exploratory stage of considerations and any firm decision about the future distribution of fire stations would require full authority approval. In order to assist me in taking back options for the Fire authority to consider Please can you:-
a) a suggest potential sites for a fire station in the Greasby area of the Wirral
b) Please can you suggest potential sites in the clatterbridge/bebington area
The approx. area for a stand alone fire station with community facilities is about 1 acre. At Prescot (which is likely to be a join police/fire ambulance station) we had identified a 2.4 acre site. Sites require good arterial road access for emergency response.
Many thanks
Kieran
Kieran Timmins
Deputy Chief Executive
Merseyside Fire and Rescue Authority
Fire Service HQ
Bridle Road
Bootle
L30 4YD
Tel: 0151 296 4202
Fax: 0151 296 4224
kierantimmins@merseyfire.gov.uk
www.merseyfire.gov.uk
Timmins, Kieran From: Timmins, Kieran Sent: 04 November 2013 13:39 To:‘davidball@wirral.gov.uk’;’davidarmstrong@wirral.gov.uk’ CC: Schofield, Colin Subject: FW: Request for sites
Hi Gents
Have you had a chance to consider what options might be available.
Regards
Kieran
Kieran Timmins
Deputy Chief Executive
Merseyside Fire and Rescue Authority
Fire Service HQ
Bridle Road
Bootle
L30 4YD
Tel: 0151 296 4202
Fax: 0151 296 4224
kierantimmins@merseyfire.gov.uk
www.merseyfire.gov.uk
From: Collinson, Nyree Sent: 04 November 2013 12:52 To: Timmins, Kieran Subject: FW: Request for sites
Kieran, is this the email you’re looking for?
Nyree Collinson
PA to Deputy Chief Exec
Tel. 0151 296 4108
From: Collinson, Nyree Sent: 26 September 2013 09:36 To: David Ball – Regeneration Dept., Wirral Borough Council (davidball@wirral.gov.uk);’davidarmstrong@wirral.gov.uk’ Subject: FW: Request for sites
Please see below from Kieran Timmins
Nyree Collinson
PA to Deputy Chief Exec
Tel. 0151 296 4108
From: Timmins, Kieran Sent: 25 September 2013 18:31 To: Collinson, Nyree CC: Henshaw, Janet (Legal); Woods, Stewart; Schofield, Colin Subject: Request for sites
Dear David/David
Thank you for a very useful meeting. As we discussed the authority has approved the attached report:-
A Strategic Overview of Estates – Identification of Key Priorities PDF 38Kb
To consider Report CFO/12/13 of the Deputy Chief Executive, concerning a review of the property portfolio of the Authority and recommendations for savings in light of the forecast significant reductions in funding. Additional documents
As I highlighted, we are currently at the exploratory stage of considerations and any firm decision about the future distribution of fire stations would require full authority approval. In order to assist me in taking back options for the Fire authority to consider Please can you:-
a) a suggest potential sites for a fire station in the Greasby area of the Wirral
b) Please can you suggest potential sites in the clatterbridge/bebington area
The approx. area for a stand alone fire station with community facilities is about 1 acre. At Prescot (which is likely to be a join police/fire ambulance station) we had identified a 2.4 acre site. Sites require good arterial road access for emergency response.
Many thanks
Kieran
Kieran Timmins
Deputy Chief Executive
Merseyside Fire and Rescue Authority
Fire Service HQ
Bridle Road
Bootle
L30 4YD
Tel: 0151 296 4202
Fax: 0151 296 4224
kierantimmins@merseyfire.gov.uk
www.merseyfire.gov.uk
Timmins, Kieran From: Timmins, Kieran Sent: 15 November 2013 13:48 To:‘davidball@wirral.gov.uk’;’davidarmstrong@wirral.gov.uk’ CC: Schofield, Colin Subject: RE: Request for sites
Hi Gents
Have you had a chance to consider this yet?
Many thanks
Kieran
Kieran
Kieran Timmins
Deputy Chief Executive
Merseyside Fire and Rescue Authority
Fire Service HQ
Bridle Road
Bootle
L30 4YD
Tel: 0151 296 4202
Fax: 0151 296 4224
kierantimmins@merseyfire.gov.uk
www.merseyfire.gov.uk
From: Timmins, Kieran Sent: 04 November 2013 13:39 To:‘davidball@wirral.gov.uk’;’davidarmstrong@wirral.gov.uk’ CC: Schofield, Colin Subject: FW: Request for sites
Hi Gents
Have you had a chance to consider what options might be available.
Regards
Kieran
Kieran Timmins
Deputy Chief Executive
Merseyside Fire and Rescue Authority
Fire Service HQ
Bridle Road
Bootle
L30 4YD
Tel: 0151 296 4202
Fax: 0151 296 4224
kierantimmins@merseyfire.gov.uk
www.merseyfire.gov.uk
From: Collinson, Nyree Sent: 04 November 2013 12:52 To: Timmins, Kieran Subject: FW: Request for sites
Kieran, is this the email you’re looking for?
Nyree Collinson
PA to Deputy Chief Exec
Tel. 0151 296 4108
From: Collinson, Nyree Sent: 26 September 2013 09:36 To: David Ball – Regeneration Dept., Wirral Borough Council (davidball@wirral.gov.uk);’davidarmstrong@wirral.gov.uk’ Subject: FW: Request for sites
Please see below from Kieran Timmins
Nyree Collinson
PA to Deputy Chief Exec
Tel. 0151 296 4108
From: Timmins, Kieran Sent: 25 September 2013 18:31 To: Collinson, Nyree CC: Henshaw, Janet (Legal); Woods, Stewart; Schofield, Colin Subject: Request for sites
Dear David/David
Thank you for a very useful meeting. As we discussed the authority has approved the attached report:-
A Strategic Overview of Estates – Identification of Key Priorities PDF 38Kb
To consider Report CFO/12/13 of the Deputy Chief Executive, concerning a review of the property portfolio of the Authority and recommendations for savings in light of the forecast significant reductions in funding. Additional documents
As I highlighted, we are currently at the exploratory stage of considerations and any firm decision about the future distribution of fire stations would require full authority approval. In order to assist me in taking back options for the Fire authority to consider Please can you:-
a) a suggest potential sites for a fire station in the Greasby area of the Wirral
b) Please can you suggest potential sites in the clatterbridge/bebington area
The approx. area for a stand alone fire station with community facilities is about 1 acre. At Prescot (which is likely to be a join police/fire ambulance station) we had identified a 2.4 acre site. Sites require good arterial road access for emergency response.
Many thanks
Kieran
Kieran Timmins
Deputy Chief Executive
Merseyside Fire and Rescue Authority
Fire Service HQ
Bridle Road
Bootle
L30 4YD
Tel: 0151 296 4202
Fax: 0151 296 4224
kierantimmins@merseyfire.gov.uk
www.merseyfire.gov.uk
Timmins, Kieran
From: Ball, David S. Sent: 15 November 2013 13:50 To: Timmins, Kieran Subject: Out of Office Autoreply: Request for sites
Thank you for your e-mail.
I am out of the office on Friday afternoon in a series of meetings. I will be accessing e-mails from time to time but if you need anything urgently then please contact Annie Hasprey or Melanie Sloan on 0151 691 8395 and they will be able to help you.
Regards,
David
David Ball
Head of Regeneration and Planning,
Wirral Council
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Timmins, Kieran From: Halpin, Colleen S. on behalf of Armstrong, David Sent: 11 December 2013 14:55 To: Murphy(M), Paul; Timmins, Kieran; Schofield, Colin CC: Royle, Jeanette E. Subject: Request for Sites
Dear Colin, Paul and Kieran
Thank you for your emails and messages regarding a potential site in Greasby for a new fire station. I apologise for not replying sooner. I am afraid a new phone and a series of hospital appointments are slowing me down!
In order to discuss the Greasby site further, can you please contact Tony Simpson on tonysimpson@wirral.gov.uk, tell 666 3892, who will share with you the relevant plans and land ownership issues.
Regards
David Armstrong
Head of Universal Services CYPD
and Assistant Chief Executive
Colleen Halpin
PA to Director of Children’s Services
Children and Young People’s Department
Wirral Council
Tel: 0151 666 4288
Fax: 0151 666 4338
E-mail: colleenhalpin@wirral.gov.uk
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From: Timmins, Kieran Sent: 12 December 2013 09:58 To: ‘Armstrong, David’ Cc: Royle, Jeanette E.; Schofield, Colin Subject: RE: Request for Sites
Thanks David, much appreciated. Hope you are ok?
Not sure if Tony can pick this up but it strikes me as making sense if (presuming a Wirral owned site is identified in Greasby) that a land swap for the youth zone in Birkenhead might be a sensible approach for tidying up ownership etc…….. what do you think?
Take care
Kieran
Kieran Timmins
Deputy Chief Executive
Merseyside Fire and Rescue Authority
Fire Service HQ
Bridle Road
Bootle
L30 4YD
From: Halpin, Colleen S. on behalf of Armstrong, David Sent: 11 December 2013 14:55 To: Murphy(M), Paul; Timmins, Kieran; Schofield, Colin CC: Royle, Jeanette E. Subject: Request for Sites
Dear Colin, Paul and Kieran
Thank you for your emails and messages regarding a potential site in Greasby for a new fire station. I apologise for not replying sooner. I am afraid a new phone and a series of hospital appointments are slowing me down!
In order to discuss the Greasby site further, can you please contact Tony Simpson on tonysimpson@wirral.gov.uk, tell 666 3892, who will share with you the relevant plans and land ownership issues.
Regards
David Armstrong
Head of Universal Services CYPD
and Assistant Chief Executive
Colleen Halpin
PA to Director of Children’s Services
Children and Young People’s Department
Wirral Council
Tel: 0151 666 4288
Fax: 0151 666 4338
E-mail: colleenhalpin@wirral.gov.uk
www.wirral.gov.uk
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Timmins, Kieran From: Timmins, Kieran Sent: 21 January 2014 11:06 To: ‘Armstrong, David’;Subramanayam, Anatha Cc: Schofield, Colin; Simpson, Tony Subject: RE: Greasby Land – MFRS/WBC
Hi David
Thanks for the note….. to be very clear on the first point we expressly asked you to identify potential options. You certainly did not propose a site!
In relation to the other points I hope the comments below might help…..
The footprint we discussed was based upon the PFI stations we have built recently….. in general these are two bay with extensive community facilities. However in general most of the fire stations only house one appliance despite having two bays although we have been quite successful with the ambulance service in sharing sites.I can’t envisage us building an old style fire station without community facilities and would expect to have two bays as well to allow operational flexibility.
All three blue lights services have come under significant pressure to work more closely from government and I think there is a clear public expectation that in these challenging times for public services we would consider the possibility on any new build. In Merseyside we work very successfully with both NWAS and the Police and have several successful operations. In broad terms I would expect the presence of colleague services to be relatively small and not to add significantly to the building footprint (if it does suit their business plans). The PFI stations were designed prior to ambulance requests to move in but we have accommodated them without extension. There are lots of benefits for the local community around joint working by having the services co-located
Hope that is of use .Give me a buzz if you need to talk through anything
All the best
Kieran
Kieran Timmins
Deputy Chief Executive
Merseyside Fire and Rescue Authority
Fire Service HQ
Bridle Road
Bootle
L30 4YD
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From: Halpin, Colleen S. [mailto:ColleenHalpin@wirral.gov.uk] On Behalf Of Armstrong, David Sent: 21 January 2014 09:34 To: Subramanayam, Anatha Cc: Timmins, Kieran; Schofield, Colin; Simpson, Tony Subject: RE: Greasby Land – MFRS/WBC
Thanks for this.
A couple of initial responses.
– I think it is important to be clear that I responded to a request from MFRS for possible sites for a fire station on council owned land. We came up with two, of which this was one, the other was felt by MFRS to be too close to the current Upton fire station. This is very different to how the email could be read that “David Armstrong proposed” this site. Clearly MFRS has the option to look also at other suitable sites owned by others.
– Our discussions were around a single bay fire station and in that regard the site appeared to have potential, particularly having the front and rear access required by MFRS. The discussion extended to possible inclusion of the community facilities, in line with the very positive developments undertaken by MFRS in Wallasey and Birkenhead.
– I’d envisage that a marked up drawing would come back showing if and how a one bay fire station would fit on the site and possibly a second option of a one bay plus a community facility.
– To the best of my memory, I don’t recall any mention of possible use by police and ambulance “hence the reason for two acres”. I fully support the principle, both for operational and financial reasons but would ask the question – is that going to result in us trying to squeeze a quart into a pint pot here.
– It would be useful to see the footprints of i) single bay fire station, ii) single bay fire station and community, iii) larger joint facility on the land in question.
Sorry if the above sounds negative – I just feel the need to be cautious!
Regards
David Armstrong
Head of Universal Services CYPD
and Assistant Chief Executive
Colleen Halpin
PA to Director of Children’s Services
Children and Young People’s Department
Wirral Council
Tel: 0151 666 4288
Fax: 0151 666 4338
E-mail: colleenhalpin@wirral.gov.uk www.wirral.gov.uk
From: Subramanayam, Anatha [mailto:] Sent: 20 January 2014 13:16 To: Simpson, Tony Cc: Schofield, Colin; Timmins, Kieran Subject: Greasby Land – MFRS/WBC Importance: High
Hello Tony,
As per our meeting on 8th January 2014 – I am emailing you MFRS understanding in confidence about the land in Greasby (attached )
Summarising the way forward as we discussed:
WBC & MFRS discussed the criteria for development of the Fire station in the land proposed by David Armstrong of WBC as potential option.
You have confirmed that WBC have granted a long-term (99 year lease ) to the local community trust occupying the community centre adjacent to the site. Can you please confirm the area of the site we discussed :
1. With community centre
2. With community centre & Library
3. Without community centre and Library
You stated the approval was granted for the development of supermarket in the red cat premises Can please confirm whether the proposed scheme for Tesco/Sainsbury has been approved adjacent to the site Library which can expand the options available for WBC & MFRS to consider development on proposed sensitive site. (see attached drawing for reference)
As we have discussed with you MFRS anticipate greater interest from associated partners – NWAS & Mersey Police for their respective occupational requirements which is the reason we need minimum of 2 acres of Land to avoid any design issues for a feasible development.
As we discussed – ideally MFRS & WBC can look forward on few options :
1. MFRS can ideally build a Fire station in the proposed land subject to area confirmation.
2. MFRS can develop a Fire station in the proposed land along with community facility while transferring the lease agreements from WBC to MFRS for the existing community centre subject to consultation with community centre and area confirmation.
3. MFRS can develop a Fire station along with a community facility & Library facility within the associated occupant Lands subject to an agreement with WBC for Land and lease arrangements.
4. MFRS & WBC can work together to formulate development template in line with any Tesco/Sainsbury proposals in the adjacent Red Cat premises along with Option 3 mentioned above which can be beneficial to all involved stakeholders and community in general.
I look forward to your thoughts on above and please do not hesitate to contact us for any information needed.
Regards
Anu
Anatha Subramanayam | Development Manager – Estates | Merseyside Fire & Rescue Service | Bridle Road, Bootle L30 4YD | Office: 0151 296 4314 Mob: 07801156545 Email: anathasubramanayam@merseyfire.gov.uk
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From: Halpin, Colleen S. [mailto:ColleenHalpin@wirral.gov.uk] On Behalf Of Armstrong, David Sent: 21 January 2014 09:34 To: Subramanayam, Anatha Cc: Timmins, Kieran; Schofield, Colin; Simpson, Tony Subject: RE: Greasby Land – MFRS/WBC
Thanks for this.
A couple of initial responses.
– I think it is important to be clear that I responded to a request from MFRS for possible sites for a fire station on council owned land. We came up with two, of which this was one, the other was felt by MFRS to be too close to the current Upton fire station. This is very different to how the email could be read that “David Armstrong proposed” this site. Clearly MFRS has the option to look also at other suitable sites owned by others.
– Our discussions were around a single bay fire station and in that regard the site appeared to have potential, particularly having the front and rear access required by MFRS. The discussion extended to possible inclusion of the community facilities, in line with the very positive developments undertaken by MFRS in Wallasey and Birkenhead.
– I’d envisage that a marked up drawing would come back showing if and how a one bay fire station would fit on the site and possibly a second option of a one bay plus a community facility.
– To the best of my memory, I don’t recall any mention of possible use by police and ambulance “hence the reason for two acres”. I fully support the principle, both for operational and financial reasons but would ask the question – is that going to result in us trying to squeeze a quart into a pint pot here.
– It would be useful to see the footprints of i) single bay fire station, ii) single bay fire station and community, iii) larger joint facility on the land in question.
Sorry if the above sounds negative – I just feel the need to be cautious!
Regards
David Armstrong
Head of Universal Services CYPD
and Assistant Chief Executive
Colleen Halpin
PA to Director of Children’s Services
Children and Young People’s Department
Wirral Council
Tel: 0151 666 4288
Fax: 0151 666 4338
E-mail: colleenhalpin@wirral.gov.uk www.wirral.gov.uk
From: Subramanayam, Anatha [mailto:] Sent: 20 January 2014 13:16 To: Simpson, Tony Cc: Schofield, Colin; Timmins, Kieran Subject: Greasby Land – MFRS/WBC Importance: High
Hello Tony,
As per our meeting on 8th January 2014 – I am emailing you MFRS understanding in confidence about the land in Greasby (attached )
Summarising the way forward as we discussed:
WBC & MFRS discussed the criteria for development of the Fire station in the land proposed by David Armstrong of WBC as potential option.
You have confirmed that WBC have granted a long-term (99 year lease ) to the local community trust occupying the community centre adjacent to the site. Can you please confirm the area of the site we discussed :
1. With community centre
2. With community centre & Library
3. Without community centre and Library
You stated the approval was granted for the development of supermarket in the red cat premises Can please confirm whether the proposed scheme for Tesco/Sainsbury has been approved adjacent to the site Library which can expand the options available for WBC & MFRS to consider development on proposed sensitive site. (see attached drawing for reference)
As we have discussed with you MFRS anticipate greater interest from associated partners – NWAS & Mersey Police for their respective occupational requirements which is the reason we need minimum of 2 acres of Land to avoid any design issues for a feasible development.
As we discussed – ideally MFRS & WBC can look forward on few options :
1. MFRS can ideally build a Fire station in the proposed land subject to area confirmation.
2. MFRS can develop a Fire station in the proposed land along with community facility while transferring the lease agreements from WBC to MFRS for the existing community centre subject to consultation with community centre and area confirmation.
3. MFRS can develop a Fire station along with a community facility & Library facility within the associated occupant Lands subject to an agreement with WBC for Land and lease arrangements.
4. MFRS & WBC can work together to formulate development template in line with any Tesco/Sainsbury proposals in the adjacent Red Cat premises along with Option 3 mentioned above which can be beneficial to all involved stakeholders and community in general.
I look forward to your thoughts on above and please do not hesitate to contact us for any information needed.
Regards
Anu
Anatha Subramanayam | Development Manager – Estates | Merseyside Fire & Rescue Service | Bridle Road, Bootle L30 4YD | Office: 0151 296 4314 Mob: 07801156545 Email: anathasubramanayam@merseyfire.gov.uk
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Timmins, Kieran
From: Simpson, Tony Sent: 25 March 2014 17:08 To:Timmins, Kieran Subject: RE: Greasby Land – MFRS/WBC
Hi Kieran
Proprietor of Upton Cricket Club, Old Greasby Road, Wirral, CH49 6LT :-
Rose Chaplet Nominees Ltd., (Co. Regn. No.05678129), and Reveille Nominees Ltd., (Co. Regn. 05678115), c/o Leverhulme Estates, Estate Office, Thornton Hough, Wirral CH63 1JD and c/o Brabners LLP (Ref. JPW/AFR/LEO), Horton House, Exchange Flags, Liverpool L2 3YL
Regards
Tony
Timmins, Kieran From: Timmins, Kieran Sent: 21 January 2014 11:06 To: ‘Armstrong, David’;Subramanayam, Anatha Cc: Schofield, Colin; Simpson, Tony Subject: RE: Greasby Land – MFRS/WBC
Hi David
Thanks for the note….. to be very clear on the first point we expressly asked you to identify potential options. You certainly did not propose a site!
In relation to the other points I hope the comments below might help…..
The footprint we discussed was based upon the PFI stations we have built recently….. in general these are two bay with extensive community facilities. However in general most of the fire stations only house one appliance despite having two bays although we have been quite successful with the ambulance service in sharing sites.I can’t envisage us building an old style fire station without community facilities and would expect to have two bays as well to allow operational flexibility.
All three blue lights services have come under significant pressure to work more closely from government and I think there is a clear public expectation that in these challenging times for public services we would consider the possibility on any new build. In Merseyside we work very successfully with both NWAS and the Police and have several successful operations. In broad terms I would expect the presence of colleague services to be relatively small and not to add significantly to the building footprint (if it does suit their business plans). The PFI stations were designed prior to ambulance requests to move in but we have accommodated them without extension. There are lots of benefits for the local community around joint working by having the services co-located
Hope that is of use .Give me a buzz if you need to talk through anything
All the best
Kieran
Kieran Timmins
Deputy Chief Executive
Merseyside Fire and Rescue Authority
Fire Service HQ
Bridle Road
Bootle
L30 4YD
From: Halpin, Colleen S. [mailto:ColleenHalpin@wirral.gov.uk] On Behalf Of Armstrong, David Sent: 21 January 2014 09:34 To: Subramanayam, Anatha Cc: Timmins, Kieran; Schofield, Colin; Simpson, Tony Subject: RE: Greasby Land – MFRS/WBC
Thanks for this.
A couple of initial responses.
– I think it is important to be clear that I responded to a request from MFRS for possible sites for a fire station on council owned land. We came up with two, of which this was one, the other was felt by MFRS to be too close to the current Upton fire station. This is very different to how the email could be read that “David Armstrong proposed” this site. Clearly MFRS has the option to look also at other suitable sites owned by others.
– Our discussions were around a single bay fire station and in that regard the site appeared to have potential, particularly having the front and rear access required by MFRS. The discussion extended to possible inclusion of the community facilities, in line with the very positive developments undertaken by MFRS in Wallasey and Birkenhead.
– I’d envisage that a marked up drawing would come back showing if and how a one bay fire station would fit on the site and possibly a second option of a one bay plus a community facility.
– To the best of my memory, I don’t recall any mention of possible use by police and ambulance “hence the reason for two acres”. I fully support the principle, both for operational and financial reasons but would ask the question – is that going to result in us trying to squeeze a quart into a pint pot here.
– It would be useful to see the footprints of i) single bay fire station, ii) single bay fire station and community, iii) larger joint facility on the land in question.
Sorry if the above sounds negative – I just feel the need to be cautious!
Regards
David Armstrong
Head of Universal Services CYPD
and Assistant Chief Executive
Colleen Halpin
PA to Director of Children’s Services
Children and Young People’s Department
Wirral Council
Tel: 0151 666 4288
Fax: 0151 666 4338
E-mail: colleenhalpin@wirral.gov.uk www.wirral.gov.uk
From: Subramanayam, Anatha [mailto:] Sent: 20 January 2014 13:16 To: Simpson, Tony Cc: Schofield, Colin; Timmins, Kieran Subject: Greasby Land – MFRS/WBC Importance: High
Hello Tony,
As per our meeting on 8th January 2014 – I am emailing you MFRS understanding in confidence about the land in Greasby (attached )
Summarising the way forward as we discussed:
WBC & MFRS discussed the criteria for development of the Fire station in the land proposed by David Armstrong of WBC as potential option.
You have confirmed that WBC have granted a long-term (99 year lease ) to the local community trust occupying the community centre adjacent to the site. Can you please confirm the area of the site we discussed :
1. With community centre
2. With community centre & Library
3. Without community centre and Library
You stated the approval was granted for the development of supermarket in the red cat premises Can please confirm whether the proposed scheme for Tesco/Sainsbury has been approved adjacent to the site Library which can expand the options available for WBC & MFRS to consider development on proposed sensitive site. (see attached drawing for reference)
As we have discussed with you MFRS anticipate greater interest from associated partners – NWAS & Mersey Police for their respective occupational requirements which is the reason we need minimum of 2 acres of Land to avoid any design issues for a feasible development.
As we discussed – ideally MFRS & WBC can look forward on few options :
1. MFRS can ideally build a Fire station in the proposed land subject to area confirmation.
2. MFRS can develop a Fire station in the proposed land along with community facility while transferring the lease agreements from WBC to MFRS for the existing community centre subject to consultation with community centre and area confirmation.
3. MFRS can develop a Fire station along with a community facility & Library facility within the associated occupant Lands subject to an agreement with WBC for Land and lease arrangements.
4. MFRS & WBC can work together to formulate development template in line with any Tesco/Sainsbury proposals in the adjacent Red Cat premises along with Option 3 mentioned above which can be beneficial to all involved stakeholders and community in general.
I look forward to your thoughts on above and please do not hesitate to contact us for any information needed.
Regards
Anu
Anatha Subramanayam | Development Manager – Estates | Merseyside Fire & Rescue Service | Bridle Road, Bootle L30 4YD | Office: 0151 296 4314 Mob: 07801156545 Email: anathasubramanayam@merseyfire.gov.uk
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From: Timmins, Kieran Sent: 25 March 2014 17:10 To: ‘Simpson, Tony’ Cc: Subramanayam, Anatha; Schofield, Colin; Woods, Stewart Subject: RE: Greasby Land – MFRS/WBC
Thanks for prompt research Tony….. although just looking at the listing makes me think this could be complicated!!
Kieran Timmins
Deputy Chief Executive
Merseyside Fire and Rescue Authority
Fire Service HQ
Bridle Road
Bootle
L30 4YD
Tel: 0151 296 4202
Fax: 0151 296 4224
kierantimmins@merseyfire.gov.uk
www.merseyfire.gov.uk
From: Simpson, Tony Sent: 25 March 2014 17:08 To:Timmins, Kieran Subject: RE: Greasby Land – MFRS/WBC
Hi Kieran
Proprietor of Upton Cricket Club, Old Greasby Road, Wirral, CH49 6LT :-
Rose Chaplet Nominees Ltd., (Co. Regn. No.05678129), and Reveille Nominees Ltd., (Co. Regn. 05678115), c/o Leverhulme Estates, Estate Office, Thornton Hough, Wirral CH63 1JD and c/o Brabners LLP (Ref. JPW/AFR/LEO), Horton House, Exchange Flags, Liverpool L2 3YL
Regards
Tony
Timmins, Kieran From: Timmins, Kieran Sent: 21 January 2014 11:06 To: ‘Armstrong, David’;Subramanayam, Anatha Cc: Schofield, Colin; Simpson, Tony Subject: RE: Greasby Land – MFRS/WBC
Hi David
Thanks for the note….. to be very clear on the first point we expressly asked you to identify potential options. You certainly did not propose a site!
In relation to the other points I hope the comments below might help…..
The footprint we discussed was based upon the PFI stations we have built recently….. in general these are two bay with extensive community facilities. However in general most of the fire stations only house one appliance despite having two bays although we have been quite successful with the ambulance service in sharing sites.I can’t envisage us building an old style fire station without community facilities and would expect to have two bays as well to allow operational flexibility.
All three blue lights services have come under significant pressure to work more closely from government and I think there is a clear public expectation that in these challenging times for public services we would consider the possibility on any new build. In Merseyside we work very successfully with both NWAS and the Police and have several successful operations. In broad terms I would expect the presence of colleague services to be relatively small and not to add significantly to the building footprint (if it does suit their business plans). The PFI stations were designed prior to ambulance requests to move in but we have accommodated them without extension. There are lots of benefits for the local community around joint working by having the services co-located
Hope that is of use .Give me a buzz if you need to talk through anything
All the best
Kieran
Kieran Timmins
Deputy Chief Executive
Merseyside Fire and Rescue Authority
Fire Service HQ
Bridle Road
Bootle
L30 4YD
From: Halpin, Colleen S. [mailto:ColleenHalpin@wirral.gov.uk] On Behalf Of Armstrong, David Sent: 21 January 2014 09:34 To: Subramanayam, Anatha Cc: Timmins, Kieran; Schofield, Colin; Simpson, Tony Subject: RE: Greasby Land – MFRS/WBC
Thanks for this.
A couple of initial responses.
– I think it is important to be clear that I responded to a request from MFRS for possible sites for a fire station on council owned land. We came up with two, of which this was one, the other was felt by MFRS to be too close to the current Upton fire station. This is very different to how the email could be read that “David Armstrong proposed” this site. Clearly MFRS has the option to look also at other suitable sites owned by others.
– Our discussions were around a single bay fire station and in that regard the site appeared to have potential, particularly having the front and rear access required by MFRS. The discussion extended to possible inclusion of the community facilities, in line with the very positive developments undertaken by MFRS in Wallasey and Birkenhead.
– I’d envisage that a marked up drawing would come back showing if and how a one bay fire station would fit on the site and possibly a second option of a one bay plus a community facility.
– To the best of my memory, I don’t recall any mention of possible use by police and ambulance “hence the reason for two acres”. I fully support the principle, both for operational and financial reasons but would ask the question – is that going to result in us trying to squeeze a quart into a pint pot here.
– It would be useful to see the footprints of i) single bay fire station, ii) single bay fire station and community, iii) larger joint facility on the land in question.
Sorry if the above sounds negative – I just feel the need to be cautious!
Regards
David Armstrong
Head of Universal Services CYPD
and Assistant Chief Executive
Colleen Halpin
PA to Director of Children’s Services
Children and Young People’s Department
Wirral Council
Tel: 0151 666 4288
Fax: 0151 666 4338
E-mail: colleenhalpin@wirral.gov.uk www.wirral.gov.uk
From: Subramanayam, Anatha [mailto:] Sent: 20 January 2014 13:16 To: Simpson, Tony Cc: Schofield, Colin; Timmins, Kieran Subject: Greasby Land – MFRS/WBC Importance: High
Hello Tony,
As per our meeting on 8th January 2014 – I am emailing you MFRS understanding in confidence about the land in Greasby (attached )
Summarising the way forward as we discussed:
WBC & MFRS discussed the criteria for development of the Fire station in the land proposed by David Armstrong of WBC as potential option.
You have confirmed that WBC have granted a long-term (99 year lease ) to the local community trust occupying the community centre adjacent to the site. Can you please confirm the area of the site we discussed :
1. With community centre
2. With community centre & Library
3. Without community centre and Library
You stated the approval was granted for the development of supermarket in the red cat premises Can please confirm whether the proposed scheme for Tesco/Sainsbury has been approved adjacent to the site Library which can expand the options available for WBC & MFRS to consider development on proposed sensitive site. (see attached drawing for reference)
As we have discussed with you MFRS anticipate greater interest from associated partners – NWAS & Mersey Police for their respective occupational requirements which is the reason we need minimum of 2 acres of Land to avoid any design issues for a feasible development.
As we discussed – ideally MFRS & WBC can look forward on few options :
1. MFRS can ideally build a Fire station in the proposed land subject to area confirmation.
2. MFRS can develop a Fire station in the proposed land along with community facility while transferring the lease agreements from WBC to MFRS for the existing community centre subject to consultation with community centre and area confirmation.
3. MFRS can develop a Fire station along with a community facility & Library facility within the associated occupant Lands subject to an agreement with WBC for Land and lease arrangements.
4. MFRS & WBC can work together to formulate development template in line with any Tesco/Sainsbury proposals in the adjacent Red Cat premises along with Option 3 mentioned above which can be beneficial to all involved stakeholders and community in general.
I look forward to your thoughts on above and please do not hesitate to contact us for any information needed.
Regards
Anu
Anatha Subramanayam | Development Manager – Estates | Merseyside Fire & Rescue Service | Bridle Road, Bootle L30 4YD | Office: 0151 296 4314 Mob: 07801156545 Email: anathasubramanayam@merseyfire.gov.uk
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From: Simpson, Tony Sent: 25 March 2014 17:14 To: Timmins, Kieran Subject: RE: Greasby Land – MFRS/WBC
Nothing’s ever easy these days!
Timmins, Kieran
From: Timmins, Kieran Sent: 25 March 2014 17:10 To: ‘Simpson, Tony’ Cc: Subramanayam, Anatha; Schofield, Colin; Woods, Stewart Subject: RE: Greasby Land – MFRS/WBC
Thanks for prompt research Tony….. although just looking at the listing makes me think this could be complicated!!
Kieran Timmins
Deputy Chief Executive
Merseyside Fire and Rescue Authority
Fire Service HQ
Bridle Road
Bootle
L30 4YD
Tel: 0151 296 4202
Fax: 0151 296 4224
kierantimmins@merseyfire.gov.uk
www.merseyfire.gov.uk
From: Simpson, Tony Sent: 25 March 2014 17:08 To:Timmins, Kieran Subject: RE: Greasby Land – MFRS/WBC
Hi Kieran
Proprietor of Upton Cricket Club, Old Greasby Road, Wirral, CH49 6LT :-
Rose Chaplet Nominees Ltd., (Co. Regn. No.05678129), and Reveille Nominees Ltd., (Co. Regn. 05678115), c/o Leverhulme Estates, Estate Office, Thornton Hough, Wirral CH63 1JD and c/o Brabners LLP (Ref. JPW/AFR/LEO), Horton House, Exchange Flags, Liverpool L2 3YL
Regards
Tony
Timmins, Kieran From: Timmins, Kieran Sent: 21 January 2014 11:06 To: ‘Armstrong, David’;Subramanayam, Anatha Cc: Schofield, Colin; Simpson, Tony Subject: RE: Greasby Land – MFRS/WBC
Hi David
Thanks for the note….. to be very clear on the first point we expressly asked you to identify potential options. You certainly did not propose a site!
In relation to the other points I hope the comments below might help…..
The footprint we discussed was based upon the PFI stations we have built recently….. in general these are two bay with extensive community facilities. However in general most of the fire stations only house one appliance despite having two bays although we have been quite successful with the ambulance service in sharing sites.I can’t envisage us building an old style fire station without community facilities and would expect to have two bays as well to allow operational flexibility.
All three blue lights services have come under significant pressure to work more closely from government and I think there is a clear public expectation that in these challenging times for public services we would consider the possibility on any new build. In Merseyside we work very successfully with both NWAS and the Police and have several successful operations. In broad terms I would expect the presence of colleague services to be relatively small and not to add significantly to the building footprint (if it does suit their business plans). The PFI stations were designed prior to ambulance requests to move in but we have accommodated them without extension. There are lots of benefits for the local community around joint working by having the services co-located
Hope that is of use .Give me a buzz if you need to talk through anything
All the best
Kieran
Kieran Timmins
Deputy Chief Executive
Merseyside Fire and Rescue Authority
Fire Service HQ
Bridle Road
Bootle
L30 4YD
From: Halpin, Colleen S. [mailto:ColleenHalpin@wirral.gov.uk] On Behalf Of Armstrong, David Sent: 21 January 2014 09:34 To: Subramanayam, Anatha Cc: Timmins, Kieran; Schofield, Colin; Simpson, Tony Subject: RE: Greasby Land – MFRS/WBC
Thanks for this.
A couple of initial responses.
– I think it is important to be clear that I responded to a request from MFRS for possible sites for a fire station on council owned land. We came up with two, of which this was one, the other was felt by MFRS to be too close to the current Upton fire station. This is very different to how the email could be read that “David Armstrong proposed” this site. Clearly MFRS has the option to look also at other suitable sites owned by others.
– Our discussions were around a single bay fire station and in that regard the site appeared to have potential, particularly having the front and rear access required by MFRS. The discussion extended to possible inclusion of the community facilities, in line with the very positive developments undertaken by MFRS in Wallasey and Birkenhead.
– I’d envisage that a marked up drawing would come back showing if and how a one bay fire station would fit on the site and possibly a second option of a one bay plus a community facility.
– To the best of my memory, I don’t recall any mention of possible use by police and ambulance “hence the reason for two acres”. I fully support the principle, both for operational and financial reasons but would ask the question – is that going to result in us trying to squeeze a quart into a pint pot here.
– It would be useful to see the footprints of i) single bay fire station, ii) single bay fire station and community, iii) larger joint facility on the land in question.
Sorry if the above sounds negative – I just feel the need to be cautious!
Regards
David Armstrong
Head of Universal Services CYPD
and Assistant Chief Executive
Colleen Halpin
PA to Director of Children’s Services
Children and Young People’s Department
Wirral Council
Tel: 0151 666 4288
Fax: 0151 666 4338
E-mail: colleenhalpin@wirral.gov.uk www.wirral.gov.uk
From: Subramanayam, Anatha [mailto:] Sent: 20 January 2014 13:16 To: Simpson, Tony Cc: Schofield, Colin; Timmins, Kieran Subject: Greasby Land – MFRS/WBC Importance: High
Hello Tony,
As per our meeting on 8th January 2014 – I am emailing you MFRS understanding in confidence about the land in Greasby (attached )
Summarising the way forward as we discussed:
WBC & MFRS discussed the criteria for development of the Fire station in the land proposed by David Armstrong of WBC as potential option.
You have confirmed that WBC have granted a long-term (99 year lease ) to the local community trust occupying the community centre adjacent to the site. Can you please confirm the area of the site we discussed :
1. With community centre
2. With community centre & Library
3. Without community centre and Library
You stated the approval was granted for the development of supermarket in the red cat premises Can please confirm whether the proposed scheme for Tesco/Sainsbury has been approved adjacent to the site Library which can expand the options available for WBC & MFRS to consider development on proposed sensitive site. (see attached drawing for reference)
As we have discussed with you MFRS anticipate greater interest from associated partners – NWAS & Mersey Police for their respective occupational requirements which is the reason we need minimum of 2 acres of Land to avoid any design issues for a feasible development.
As we discussed – ideally MFRS & WBC can look forward on few options :
1. MFRS can ideally build a Fire station in the proposed land subject to area confirmation.
2. MFRS can develop a Fire station in the proposed land along with community facility while transferring the lease agreements from WBC to MFRS for the existing community centre subject to consultation with community centre and area confirmation.
3. MFRS can develop a Fire station along with a community facility & Library facility within the associated occupant Lands subject to an agreement with WBC for Land and lease arrangements.
4. MFRS & WBC can work together to formulate development template in line with any Tesco/Sainsbury proposals in the adjacent Red Cat premises along with Option 3 mentioned above which can be beneficial to all involved stakeholders and community in general.
I look forward to your thoughts on above and please do not hesitate to contact us for any information needed.
Regards
Anu
Anatha Subramanayam | Development Manager – Estates | Merseyside Fire & Rescue Service | Bridle Road, Bootle L30 4YD | Office: 0151 296 4314 Mob: 07801156545 Email: anathasubramanayam@merseyfire.gov.uk
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Timmins, Kieran
From: Ball, David S. Sent: 29 April 2014 09:06 To: Timmins, Kieran Cc: Simpson, Tony; Armstrong, David Subject: RE: Greasby sites
Kieran,
I don’t but I have copied this to Tony and David who may know more about it.
David
DAVID BALL
Head of Regeneration and Planning
Regeneration and Environment Department
Wirral Council
From: Timmins, Kieran [mailto:KieranTimmins@merseyfire.gov.uk] Sent: 29 April 2014 08:54 To: Ball, David S. Subject: Greasby sites
Hi David
Do you know anything about land sited on Frankby road opposite St John the divine church? Is that a possible fire station site?
Cheers
Kieran
Kieran Timmins
Deputy Chief Executive
Merseyside Fire and Rescue Authority
Fire Service HQ
Bridle Road
Bootle
L30 4YD
Tel: 0151 296 4202
Fax: 0151 296 4224
Timmins, Kieran
From: Ball, David S Sent: 29 April 2014 12:58 To: Timmins, Kieran Cc: Armstrong, David; Simpson, Tony Subject FW: Greasby sites
Kieran,
Here is the view on this site from my Forward Planning team. It seems that there would be some planning policy issues here but I can explore it further if you want me to.
David
DAVID BALL
Head of Regeneration and Planning
Regeneration and Environment Department
Wirral Council
From: Entwhistle, John C. Sent: 29 April 2014 12:56 To: Ball, David S. Subject: RE: Greasby sites
David – the land on the opposite site of Frankby road to St John the Divine is in the Green Belt so a fire station would be inappropriate development and very special circumstances would have to be demonstrated. However there is potential for significant harm to the Green Belt in this location because of its role in maintaining separation between Greasby and Frankby.
John Entwistle Principal Forward Planning Officer,
Forward Planning,
Regeneration and Environment,
Wirral Council,
Town Hall, Brighton Street
Wallasey, Merseyside
CH44 8ED
Telephone: 0151 691 8221
email: johnentwistle@wirral.gov.uk
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From: Ball, David S. Sent: 29 April 2014 12:19 To: Entwhistle, John C. Subject: FW: Greasby sites Importance: High
John,
Do we know anything about this site?
Would a fire station be an acceptable use?
David
DAVID BALL
Head of Regeneration and Planning
Regeneration and Environment Department
Wirral Council
