Wirral Council reconsiders secrecy over hourly rates for solicitors and barristers and decides to keep them secret

Wirral Council reconsiders secrecy over hourly rates for solicitors and barristers and decides to keep them secret

Wirral Council reconsiders secrecy over hourly rates for solicitors and barristers and decides to keep them secret


Last year I blogged about how Wirral Council had entered into a contract with solicitors and barristers chambers to keep the hourly rates it was being charged “confidential” (and therefore redacted on the invoices and contract I requested to inspect), when I exercised my right under s.15 of the Audit Commission Act 1998 c.18 as part of last year’s audit to inspect various legal invoices Wirral Council had received and the hourly rates included as part of the North West Legal Consortium Collaboration Agreement.

There’s a Management Board for the North West Legal Consortium Collaboration Agreement and a Consortium Contract Manager and last year I asked for their views on the redaction and pointed out that the contract does allow the hourly rates for legal services to be disclosed with the consent of the companies involved. The response I got is detailed in excerpts from two emails below.

Interestingly the contract also specifies in pages 15 and page 16 that if there are any FOI requests relating to these matters that the Consortium Contract Manager must be notified of any FOI requests relating to it (which is probably why Cllr Ian Lewis’ recent FOI request about the fee Wirral Council paid to the barrister Sarah O’Brien took four weeks to answer.

I thought the answer to the question about supplying the legal rates that I received last year from Wirral Council would be interesting to publish here as it runs completely counter to what politicians say in public about the Labour administration being “open and transparent”.

I’ve not included the person who sent these two emails as he’s merely passing on a response he’s received and I don’t want anyone to “shoot the messenger”.

from: @wirral.gov.uk
to: john.brace [at] gmail.com
cc: Financial Services Coordination
date: 30 August 2013 17:04
subject: RE: legal invoices

Hello Mr Brace,

Thank you for your e-mail


Redaction of Evershed’s and Weightman’s invoices

Your request has been forwarded to the Management Board of the NW Legal Consortium which meets next week. We will get back to you once a response is received from the NWLC Management Board on this matter. Depending upon the outcome of this we can then take a view on your subsequent questions.

I am on leave for the next two weeks. If you have any further need to contact us could you please send it to the financial Services coordination e-mail address and copy in my email address. Matters can then be picked up in my absence.


from: @wirral.gov.uk
to: john.brace [at] gmail.com
date: 19 September 2013 16:02
subject: RE: legal invoices
mailed-by: wirral.gov.uk

Redaction of Evershed’s and Weightman’s invoices

Your points have been put to the consortium as requested. The response received is contained below.

There was expectation from the bidders that the hourly rates were provided in confidence. The expectation of bidders whilst submitting the hour rates the information would be used only for the purposes of the tenders only.
We believe that disclosure of the hourly rates would be likely to prejudice the commercial interests of the law firms that tendered for the contract. As this exemption relates to the legal firms, the Council sought the views of the firms. In response, the Council was provided with the responses below:

(a) The rates on which our legal services are provided to clients are highly sensitive and often pivotal in whether we win or loose work from a client;
(b) There is a real and significant risk that disclosure of the Rates would enable our competitors to undercut us when the Council puts its legal services out to tender again, and also where we are bidding for other public sector work;
(c) The rates were provided in a highly competitive environment and they remain current. The market in which we operate is highly competitive and – more than ever during the recession – clients have been willing to ‘shop around’ for legal services with hourly rates being a key determining factor as to where to place work. Given the Rates are highly competitive (significantly below even our standard local government rates), it is a real risk that this could lead to clients on less competitive rates taking their work elsewhere or not placing work with us. It is also probable that, if the Rates were disclosed and became more widely known, some of our existing Clients will seek to re-negotiate rates to the level of or close to the Rates which again could lead to a significant financial impact on the law firms. Law firms have not gone unscathed in the recession and many firms have been forced to make redundancies and some have even gone out of business. Disclosure of the Rates could therefore lead to not-only a direct and significant impact on our revenue but also damage to our reputation and to the confidence that our clients have in us;
(d) For the reasons described above, disclosure of rates information for legal services could deter legal services providers who may think twice about whether working for public sector clients in the future. This could lead to a market in which the public sector has a diminished pool of legal services providers to choose from (driving quality down and rates up).

If you wish to pursue this latter matter further you would probably need to take your own legal advice regarding the contract confidentiality versus the Audit Commission Act. The Council has erred on the side of contract confidentiality.

The guidance issued by the Audit Commission regarding inspection rights does state that ‘Your right to inspect the accounts is personal which means the external auditor can not get involved.’ My reading of this would mean that neither Grant Thornton nor the Audit Commission would be able to provide a view on this issue.

I hope that this answers your queries.

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13 thoughts on “Wirral Council reconsiders secrecy over hourly rates for solicitors and barristers and decides to keep them secret”

  1. If Simon Goacher (former Wirral Monitoring Officer during its abusive heyday) is now head of Local Government at Weightmans, which he in fact is, then these associations may come into play, and despite the best efforts of Joyce Redfearn and her highly remunerated gang of LGA improvers, movers and shakers, they ain’t gonna be clobbered by a new dawn of openness and transparency are they?

    It’s only our cash filling just about everybody’s pockets to the brim, after all…

    1. Ah yes Simon Goacher, was he the person at CWAC that was involved with coming up with a compromise agreement that meant you couldn’t exercise your statutory Freedom of Information and Data Protection Act rights until a QC came along and pointed out to them that people can’t sign a contract signing away their legal rights?

    1. However s.15 of the Audit Commission Act 1998 only allows information to be withheld that falls under subsections 3 to 5 (for example how much an individual member of staff at Wirral Council is paid). There’s no exemption in the legislation for withholding the hourly rates of a contractor on grounds of commercial confidentiality.

  2. Errm as you may know if you’ve seen the report, the recommendations were that the Council needs to review the criteria used to consider the business investment grants, grants like that to avoid any ambiguity in criteria used to assess applications and where panels are used to review applications, panels are given written terms of reference and errm I accept those recommendations errm in full.

    A little off track by returning to BIG in a current blog.

    Firstly I must say how invaluable your record of proceedings at WBC is to the collective memory..that is a tribute.

    Re-reading Cllr Davies’s comment above it does remind me of “the equivocation of the fiend, to win us with honest trifles whilst betraying us i the deepest consequence”. Here how will financial anomalies ever come to light when the files are secreted away? Guilty parties who have received the grant are not going to come forward , are they!! So the above is meaningless unless he feared that I had more examples which I had held back.

    Why did he not say “I will ensure a thorough review of all 26 of the applications backed by wirralbiz given that the random sample of 6 have produced 100% error”?

    1. I remember the executive summary that was released yes.

      You are right that political issues can stretch over meetings over months (or even years). The official minutes are just a rather (at times) anodyne record of what was said and decided whereas video captures every word of what a politician said (and how they said it).

      There’s a shorter phrase to describe what you gave a long quote about that is probably well known to those in political, public relations or media circles. The phrase is “limited hangout”. The definition of this is as follows. “A limited hangout, or partial hangout, is a public relations or propaganda technique that involves the release of previously hidden information in order to prevent a greater exposure of more important details.”

      In other words by releasing the executive summary to the BIG report and saying what he said, there’s the hope that this will limit greater exposure of more important (and probably more embarrassing details).

      “Here how will financial anomalies ever come to light when the files are secreted away?”

      Even if the files are “secreted away” people will know what’s in them.

      The truth of the matter is that whistleblowers “know too much” and what they put in the public domain is generally the tip of a very large iceberg.

      The rest of the iceberg is generally stuff that could get people fired, subjected to disciplinary procedures or dragged through the civil and/or criminal courts for alleged breaches of the law.

      “Why did he not say “I will ensure a thorough review of all 26 of the applications backed by wirralbiz given that the random sample of 6 have produced 100% error”?”

      He’s probably repeating an answer he’s been told to say by officers. Do you really think that Cabinet Members are such masters of their brief that they write their own answers to questions?

      1. Yes and it will have been the officers that gave the lame apologia for companies 1-6 which Grant Thornton are at pains to declare that they cannot vouchsafe.
        Well I do have other files which when checked were not kosher. If I can be fagged I will find them and submit them to Mr Davies.

        One of the most curious matters here is how the subcontractor Fieldcrest Ltd who performed the work pp wirralbiz continued even as these revelations were made, and after his allegiance transferred direct to invest Wirral in July 2011, to work on the BIG fund right up to September 2012 when the spending freeze was placed. Now given that one of these files quite rightly was given to the police that is a curious example of the “inviolability of officers” to transcend common sense and justice.

        An informant of mine was on the Panel in that summer 2011and reported that the officers were more interested in chit-chat than scrutiny. My informant left after being asked to approve applications that manifestly were askew.All this months after explanations of how the files were wrong had been sent to Invest Wirral

        1. Surely it should be companies 1-6 that offer any explanation as to what happened rather than Wirral Council on their behalf?

          The issue of subcontracting is a vexed one as it relies on staff employed at Wirral Council to monitor compliance with the contract, but also provides a scapegoat in the form of the subcontractor should things go wrong.

          When subcontractors then further subcontract the contract it makes the lines of governance and accountability even more blurry. As to the status of the Merseyside Police investigation, as with Wirral Council I just get stonewalled by both organisations if I ask such questions. Mind you somebody described me as a “friendly Rottweiler” recently so maybe that’s why!

          1. “Surely it should be companies 1-6 that offer any explanation as to what happened rather than Wirral Council on their behalf?”

            A most pertinent point, a hit , a palpable hit.

            Such companies were not bound by the investigation and rather like wirralbiz, could refuse to collaborate with Grant Thornton. The majority of the anomalies were easy to spot on the budget applications , or by reference to publicly filed documents at Companies House so co-operation from