Posted by: John Brace | 28 October 2015

EXCLUSIVE: What do the plans for a new fire station at Saughall Massie look like?

EXCLUSIVE: What do the plans for a new fire station at Saughall Massie look like?


Dan Stephens (Chief Fire Officer) answers questions at a public consultation meeting in Saughall Massie to discuss proposals for a new fire station (20th April 2015)

Dan Stephens (Chief Fire Officer) answers questions at a public consultation meeting in Saughall Massie to discuss proposals for a new fire station (20th April 2015)

The story of the possibility of a new fire station in Saughall Massie has rumbled on to a new phase as Merseyside Fire and Rescue Service has requested pre application planning advice from Wirral Council. Pictured above is Dan Stephens in Saughall Massie trying to explain the need for a fire station earlier in the year to residents.

In the interests of openness and transparency (and if the Chair of the Merseyside Fire and Rescue Authority Cllr Hanratty is reading and deplores the drain on financial resources providing the information I’m about to show on this blog I might point out it was emailed to this blog I didn’t ask for it so no cost to the public purse whatsoever), I’m publishing here some documents to do with Merseyside Fire and Rescue Service’s request for pre-application planning advice.

I might point out they got a lot of free planning advice which was revealed via FOI requests as emails passed between officers at Wirral Council and Merseyside Fire and Rescue Service.

Just before I get to the documents (I’m sure someone will eventually reveal what the advice is that Wirral Council receives in response to this) I will point out the way the project is described by Merseyside Fire and Rescue Service’s contractors is that this is all going through the formalities and this this is essentially a done deal. Although like Cllr Blakeley I will make it clear that is merely how anybody reading these documents would think and it may just be MFRS’s contractors getting ahead of themselves in documents that I think they wouldn’t assume would be published.

As there are many Ordnance Survey maps included, I am obliged to include the following: Contains OS data © [unknown database] Crown copyright 2015. You can read the Open Government Licence that Ordnance Survey makes its maps available under here.

However a decision is yet to be made on the land and yet to be made over planning permission. So that’s the caveat I will put here as from the tone of some of the way these are written you’d guess that these decisions had already been made.

Pre application planning advice request Saughall Massie Fire Station

There are also a number of documents attached to the advice that show the layout of what it proposed and plans.

Saughall Massie Fire Station attached documents

Saughall Massie Fire Station attached documents 2

Pre application documents

The purpose of pre-application planning advice is so that if there are any problems plans can be changed. So therefore it is possible the planning application will vary from the above.

As detailed by the Chief Fire Officer Dan Stephens during the consultation, once a planning application is submitted there will be a period of consultation before any decisions are made.

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  1. G’day John

    Thought you might be bored with it being school holidays so this is what I have sent to everybody’s hero in the Imperial Palace for your afternnon reading about the S L U D G E..

    G’day Lordsly

    Talking of them all playing Hide and Seek “The Wirralgate Report” with their loved kids and grandkids these school holidays.

    What’s happened to the SECRET report of Rosemary and Thyme that the Wirral Taxpayer is paying for.

    She spoke to me ages ago and then mentioned her deafness, which I presumed is of the selective variety, so I didn’t bother with that waste of space and Wirral Taxpayer money again as I knew it would stay hidden.

    She, obviously joking, no more like taking the piss, said that the report was URGENT.

    That made me laugh like I laugh at “The Pretend Friend” sleeping through meetings in your filums.

    Is this another report My Lovely that “Phil the Very Very Deluded Dill” and “The Shyster” have hidden.

    If as she said it was URGENT My Leaky Lord how can “Phil the Very Very Deluded Dill”, “Ankles” and “Phil the Dill’s Ugly Twin Brother with the Comb Over From Hell” still be anywhere near that Clownhall.



    Ps I think My Lordsville the 1,000 plus pages of Wirral “Funny” Bizz reports that “The Shyster” and “Phil the Very Very Deluded Dill” hid for months on end should be inserted into them page by page alternately.

    Luv you My Worshipful Master more than the amount of excrement that would come out of their derrieres rather than their gobs for a change.


    • The perks of my job do not extend to an “Imperial Palace”, who are you writing to anyway, Ming the Merciless?

      I have an office with filing cabinets, desks, telephones, a shredder and lots and lots and lots of local government paperwork.

      I’m talking piles and piles of the stuff. There that’s better, put a few inches (loads to spare) of papers under the laptop so it’s at a better height to type at.

      So sadly that’s all I end up with, an office with lots of paperwork. But imagine its secrets! If I look within fingertip distance a contract for councillors’ taxis, over there a letter from Merseyside Waste and Recycling Authority, an unpublished Liverpool City Council invoice for legal expenses and a public document pack from a Merseyside Fire and Rescue Authority meeting.

      Maybe I should rename it “John Brace and the Chamber of Local Government Secrets”. OK, maybe not…. finding any secrets in this lot is like finding a needle in a haystack.

      So much for the paperless office eh?

  2. G’day John

    “Phil the Very Very Deluded Dill” might have to go round and get the little welsh leprechaun that is “The Pretend Friend” out of his bed to interpret for him today.

    In the rubbish paper from over Kev and Stella’s Stinking Stagnant Wirral Waters

    Phil Davies,chair of the Liverpool City Region Combined Authority, said he remains optimistic a deal could be struck and leaders will accept a metro mayor “if the prize is worth the price”.

    John “Phil the Very Very Deluded Dill” is meeting with Michael Ray Dibdin Heseltine, Baron Heseltine today to talk about “The Northern Shithouse”

    Ha ha ha good luck with that “Dill” Uncle Joe will step back and let you make a fool of yourself.

    The fool cannot even sort out Wirralgate or Wirral “Funny” Bizz so why bother.



    John he is chair of the Liverpool City Region Combined Authority that’s on a par with “Crabapple” being chair of The Fudge It and Risk It Mis-Management Committee.

    God help Wirral.