Council (Extraordinary) (Wirral Council) 30th April 2013 Revisions to the Constitution Cllr Phil Davies (Labour) speaks for the revisions | Cllr Jeff Green (Conservative) against

Part two of a report on the sixth item of the Council’s Extraordinary meeting of the 30th April 2013 | Revisions to the Constitution | Cllr Phil Davies speaks for and Cllr Jeff Green against | Also HD video

Continued from Council (Extraordinary) 30th April 2013 Declarations of Interest, Mayor’s Communications, Petitions, Minutes, Leader’s Announcements.

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Council (Extraordinary) Meeting, Council Chamber, 30th April 2013, Part 2 (Revisions to the Constitution)

Cllr Jeff Green in the Council Chamber during a debate on revisions to the constitution

Revisions to the Constitution

There are many documents for this agenda item which can be found on Wirral Council’s website.

The Mayor referred to Standing Order 5H. Cllr Phil Davies moved the revisions to the constitution, Cllr Ann McLachlan seconded them. There were two amendments, one was proposed by Cllr Jeff Green and seconded by Cllr Lesley Rennie, the second was proposed by Cllr Tom Harney and seconded by Cllr Phil Gilchrist.

The Mayor said he had been advised by the legal officer that Cllr Phil Davies had fifteen minutes and it would be dealt with as one debate only but with separate votes on the two amendments.

Cllr Phil Davies said he was moving the recommendation from Cabinet which had been forwarded to Council around the revisions to the Council’s constitution. He said that the changes that they were discussing had their origins in the recommendations from the Corporate Peer Challenge, which had taken place last October. It had resulted in a detailed report, which contained a recommendation that the Council should “take the urgent steps you have identified to strengthen governance, make sure you complete a full review of your decision-making currently including the Scheme of Delegation assuring the arrangements are understood and adhered to”.

He referred to a review of the overview and scrutiny system arrangements including how councillors were supported by the organisation and how they would get independent and impartial support from the Corporate Policy Unit. They had sought the expertise of the Centre for Public Scrutiny, whose director was present at one of their councillor seminars.

The Corporate Challenge Team had also noted they’d started to consider the role of Neighbourhood Forums, as part of this they’d looked outside Wirral for examples of good practice. Cllr Davies said these issues had already been included in the Improvement Plan, which was part of the work that the Improvement Board had carried out. In addition to this there had been a smaller group of councillors called the Democracy Working Group chaired by the Deputy Leader of the Council looking at governance issues. There had also been five events for councillors, which had been generally well attended as well as a questionnaire that had been sent out to all councillors.

Cllr Davies felt there’d been an exhaustive appraisal of all these matters in response to the recommendations of the Corporate Peer Challenge Team. He wanted to make it clear that the administration intended to continue to operate the Cabinet and Leader model, he acknowledged there was a difference of opinion on this issue between themselves and the other groups on the Council. Cllr Davies said he had not seen convincing evidence that changing back to the committee system would address all the issues that the Corporate Peer Team had raised in October.

He said the changes were predicated on the Council continuing to operate the Cabinet and Leader system with improvements, which they believed was the best model to take forward. His observation was that any model works best if all councillors and officers have a positive mindset and engage constructively, which was their key challenge in changing the culture of Wirral Council.

The aims of the changes were to improve their governance and decision-making procedures, ensure there was clarity about the role of officers and councillors, enhance the role of councillors not in the Cabinet through changing the scrutiny process, establish a new model of neighbourhood working achieving greater engagement with local residents and introduce a new procedure for Council so that it focuses on issues its responsible for and holds the Cabinet better to account.

Cllr Davies said this recognised the outcome of the elections by giving the ruling [Labour] Group appropriate authority to carry out its policies but at the same time having a transparent process for holding the [Labour] Administration to account. He said the changes gave the opposition opportunity to question the Executive and propose alternatives.

On scrutiny the six existing overview and scrutiny committees would be replaced with three policy and performance committees, which would broadly align with the three strategic directorates. There would also be a coordinating committee to oversee the new arrangements and deal with cross cutting matters. The key point he wanted to emphasise was that the new committees would be much more involved in influencing Council policy before it’s considered by the Cabinet. This would be moving away from the current model reacting to Cabinet decisions to a model which influenced policy.

To be effective it would need joint working between the Cabinet and the new committees particularly around the Forward Plan. He gave his assurance that they would seek a new relationship with the Policy and Performance Committees and where possible take on board their views before decisions are made.

The second change was the introduction of four committees based on the parliamentary constituencies to replace the existing network of eleven Area Forums. He claimed that the Area Forums cost £1,300 a year per each resident and that the footprint of the existing Area Forums was too small to coordinate services effectively to save money. Cllr Phil Davies said the new arrangements would save £391,000 would aim to have more strategic bodies with an emphasis on the priorities in the Neighbourhood Plans with an emphasis on tackling poverty and deprivation. Although these bodies would be initially given Council money, there was the expectation that this would be matched by money from other organisations. The Neighbourhood Officers would be based in each constituency whose responsibility would be to engage with local residents.

The third set of changes were to procedures for full Council, Cllr Phil Davies said it was his belief that the current format didn’t work, that councillors spent time trying to score political points against each other and often dwell on issues that the Council wasn’t directly responsible for. The intention of the changes was to move to a procedure which focused on services delivered by Wirral Council, with an emphasis on written reports by the Leader and Chairs of the new Policy and Performance Committees. All would be able to be questioned by a councillor. There would still be notices of motion on the agenda, but these would normally be referred to Cabinet or the relevant committee unless Council thought the issue was sufficiently important to be debated by full Council.

The scheme of delegation was also to be amended to introduce greater clarity and consistency around the roles of officers and councillors. He said that they intended that the new arrangements would apply from the start of the municipal year with the impact of the changes being monitored by the Standards and Constitutional Oversight Committee and the Leaders Board.

He thanked all councillors who’ve engaged by attending seminars and filling out questionnaires. Cllr Phil Davies particularly wanted to thank the councillors on the Democracy Working Party. He said their aim was to improve governance and make sure they were more open and transparent about how they operate. Cllr Davies wanted to focus on taking the organisation forward on their key priorities which were tackling inequalities, delivering growth in Wirral’s economy and attracting new jobs and new investment and protecting vulnerable people. He also wanted to develop a new culture where they move away from a position where everything is politicised, to concentrating on practical improvements, which will improve the quality of life for residents who councillors represent. Cllr Phil Davies said the changes weren’t particularly radical, to quote a member of the Improvement Board, who attended the last councillor’s development evening, “They are not particularly transformational, they are what normal Councils do.” He said he hoped all councillors would engage with the new models of governance and resist the temptation to oppose everything without giving the changes a chance to work.

Cllr Jeff Green then addressed his amendment. He said nowhere in the Corporate Peer Challenge did it say they should remove the right of councillors to debate in the Council Chamber on behalf of their residents. He also said he didn’t think the Local Government Association Improvement Board had said it either. He said that it was possibly the last debate in the Council Chamber not approved by the Labour Party, as in the future the Labour Party would decide would could or couldn’t be debated in the Council Chamber.

Cllr Green said that Labour did have a majority and the right to determine the outcome of a debate, but what he took exception to what that they wanted to decide what is debated and what isn’t. He said that people were suffering due to the bin tax and increases in parking charges and the closure of…. At this point he was heckled by Labour councillors shouting bedroom tax.

Cllr Davies heckled and was rebuked by the Mayor. Cllr Green quipped that he was glad to see that Labour wanted to end Punch and Judy politics. He said residents were suffering under the bin tax, the increases in parking charges and the closure of day centres, it felt prosaic that they were having a debate on the constitution. The reason he found the constitution important was because he saw its role as protecting the public of Wirral from an over mighty administration.

Cllr Green said that it hadn’t taken very long for the administration and officers to determine “that’s all a bit messy having to go through these politicians, we just want to get on and do things”. He’d always said to officers that said that to him “perhaps you’re in the wrong job” and that councillors were inclined to think about the impact on their constituents.

One of the elements was to remove the Children and Young People and Health and Wellbeing scrutiny committees. Given Wirral’s history and the abuse of the most vulnerable in society and child protection issues it seemed to Cllr Green a “backward and dangerous step” to remove any of the scrutiny.

Continues at Council (Extraordinary) (Wirral Council) 30th April 2013 | Revisions to the Constitution | Conservative Leader Cllr Jeff Green responds “We remember the libraries, we remember Martin Morton, we remember what you did in closing care homes, we will make sure that these issues are publicly debated whether the Labour Party likes it or not”.

Council (Wirral Council) Budget Meeting 5th March 2013

Council (Wirral Council) Budget meeting of the 5th March 2013

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The full Council meeting to decide the 2013/14 Budget was nothing if not predictable and the papers and reports for this meeting are here.

Two large petitions were submitted during the meeting, one was against closure of the Youth Centres, another of over 14,000 against closure of the Day Centres.

The Conservative Budget amendment was debated first and proposed saving the day centres and setting a 0% Council Tax rise which would’ve been achieved through savings (reducing amounts awarded to those taking redundancy, 5 days unpaid leave, “leaning Council bureaucracy” and reducing support to councillors.

Not unsurprisingly (despite Lib Dem support) the Conservative budget was defeated by Labour councillors.

The Lib Dem Budget went further and proposed saving a whole raft of services the day centres, youth centres, grants to voluntary groups, school crossing patrols, Birkenhead kennels and ruling out a charge for collection of garden waste. It also proposed keeping the Area Forums and reducing councillors to sixty. This would’ve been achieved through savings in agency workers, reductions in councillors allowances and senior management pay, capping the redundancy payouts, less glossy brochures, reduced audit fees and some other minor savings. This Budget also would’ve led to a 0% increase in Council Tax. The Lib Dem Budget was also rejected.

So the Budget that passed was the unamended Labour Cabinet’s budget recommendation of the 18th February 2013, this Budget will lead to an overall increase in 2% in Council Tax (any higher would trigger a referendum) and includes closure of one of the day centres, cancelling the Tranmere Rovers sponsorship, getting rid of Area Forums, a cut of £1.5 million to the budget for Childrens Centres/Surestart, a cut of £1 million to the Street cleaning budget, a cut of nearly £1 million to the Home Insulation scheme and various other cuts to Council services. For the full details of Labour’s budget you can read the papers on Wirral Council’s website.

Council (Wirral Council) Monday 16th October 2012

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Monday’s Council meeting, agenda, reports pack and supplementary agenda.

Council (Wirral Council) 16th October 2012 Part 1 of 4

Mayor Cllr Gerry Ellis 00:01 to 00:16
Please sit down please. Welcome to the Council meeting. The first item is in fact the Mayor’s Chaplain to take prayers. Thank you.
Mayor’s Chaplain 00:24 to 02:28
Mayor Cllr Gerry Ellis 02:38 to 03:02

Agenda Item 1 DECLARATIONS OF INTEREST 02:40 to 07:58
Mayor Cllr Gerry Ellis 02:40 to 03:02
Cllr Ann McLachlan 03:02 to 3:15
Mayor Cllr Gerry Ellis 3:15 to 3:17
Cllr Denise Realey 3:17 to 3:22
Mayor Cllr Gerry Ellis 3:22 to 3:26
Cllr Denise Roberts 3:26 to 3:39
Mayor Cllr Gerry Ellis 3:39 to 3:41
Cllr Ron Abbey 3:41 to 3:48
Mayor Cllr Gerry Ellis 3:48 to 3:51
Cllr Stuart Whittingham 3:51 to 3:58
Mayor Cllr Gerry Ellis 3:58 to 4:00
Cllr Christina Muspratt 4:00 to 4:11
Mayor Cllr Gerry Ellis 4:11 to 4:13
Cllr Harry Smith 4:13 to 4:23
Mayor Cllr Gerry Ellis 4:23 to 4:24
Cllr Steve Niblock 4:24 to 4:30
Mayor Cllr Gerry Ellis 4:30 to 4:32
Cllr Anita Leech 4:32 to 4:35
Mayor Cllr Gerry Ellis 4:35 to 4:37
Cllr Mike Sullivan 4:37 to 4:48
Mayor Cllr Gerry Ellis 4:48 to 4:49
Cllr Darren Dodd 4:49 to 4:59
Mayor Cllr Gerry Ellis 4:59 to 5:01
Cllr Paul Doughty 5:01 to 5:14
Mayor Cllr Gerry Ellis 5:14 to 5:16
Cllr Tom Harney 5:16 to 5:23
Mayor Cllr Gerrry Ellis 5:23 to 5:28
Cllr Steve Williams 5:28 to 5:42
Mayor Cllr Gerry Ellis 5:42 to 5:44
Cllr Don McCubbin 5:44 to 5:55
Mayor Cllr Gerry Ellis 5:55 to 5:57
Cllr Lesley Rennie 5:57 to 6:25
Mayor Cllr Gerry Ellis 6:25 to 6:26
Cllr Jeff Green 6:26 to 6:41
Mayor Cllr Gerry Ellis 6:41 to 6:43
Cllr Chris Blakeley 6:43 to 6:51
Mayor Cllr Gerry Ellis 6:51 to 6:54
Deputy Mayor Cllr Dave Mitchell 6:54 to 6:59
Mayor Cllr Gerry Ellis 6:59 to 7:00
Cllr Wendy Clements 7:00 to 7:04
Mayor Cllr Gerry Ellis 7:04 to 7:05
Cllr Leah Fraser 7:06 to 7:09
Mayor Cllr Gerry Ellis 7:09 to 7:10
Cllr Moira McLaughlin 7:10 to 7:17
Mayor Cllr Gerry Ellis 7:18 to 7:27
Cllr Geoffrey Watt 7:27 to 7:32
Mayor Cllr Gerry Ellis 7:32 to 7:38
Cllr Mike Hornby 7:38 to 7:47
Mayor Cllr Gerry Ellis 7:47 to 7:58

2. MAYOR’S COMMUNICATIONS 7:58 to 10:45
Mayor Cllr Gerry Ellis 7:58 to 10:26
Cllr Chris Blakeley 10:28 to 10:34
Mayor Cllr Gerry Ellis 10:34 to 10:36
Cllr Bill Davies 10:37 to 10:40
Mayor Cllr Gerry Ellis 10:40 to 10:45

3. PETITIONS 10:45 to 11:37
Mayor Cllr Gerry Ellis 10:45 to 10:52
Cllr Brian Kenny 10:52 to 11:06
Mayor Cllr Gerry Ellis 11:06 to 11:09
Cllr Harry Smith 11:09 to 11:27
Mayor Cllr Gerry Ellis 11:27 to 11:37

4. MINUTES (16th July 2012) 11:37 to 11:53
Mayor Cllr Gerry Ellis 11:37 to 11:53

5. LEADERS ANNOUNCEMENTS 11:53 to 19:17
Mayor Cllr Gerry Ellis 11:53 to 11:57
Cllr Phil Davies 11:57 to 18:40
Mayor Cllr Gerry Ellis 18:40 to 19:17

6. MATTERS REQUIRING APPROVAL BY THE COUNCIL 19:18 to 25:09
Mayor Cllr Gerry Ellis 19:18 to 19:43
Cllr Phil Gilchrist 19:43 to 20:45
Cllr Phil Davies 20:47 to 22:03
Mayor Cllr Gerry Ellis 22:03 to 22:39
Surjit Tour leaves
Mayor Cllr Gerry Ellis 22:50 to 25:09

7. MATTERS FOR NOTING 25:09 to 25:18
Mayor Cllr Gerry Ellis 25:09 to 25:18

8. QUESTIONS 25:18 to 28:34
Mayor Cllr Gerry Ellis 25:18 to 25:29
John Brace 25:32 to 27:04
Question to Cabinet Member for Improvement and Governance (Cllr Ann McLachlan)

Q. Please could you provide a written and/or verbal answer to the following question please.

The introduction of The Local Authorities (Executive Arrangements) (Meetings and Access to Information) (England) Regulations 2012 which came into force on the 10th September 2012, changed Wirral Council’s legal obligations when it comes to holding public meetings in relation to some committees. The new regulations cover Cabinet, committees of Cabinet and some other committees and also put further duties on officers (and in some cases councillors) to record decisions made, reasons for decisions, other options considered and any conflicts of interest (and any associated notices of dispensation).

Can you explain please:-

(a) what specific committees at Wirral Council (and any joint committees or subcommittees) are considered to be “decision-making bodies” as described in the legislation,

(b) how regulation 9 will work in practice at Wirral Council with regards to delegated decisions by Cabinet Members,

(c) how the inspection arrangements for members of the public (regulations 14, 15 & 21) will actually work in practice,

(d) when and whether councillors (and co-opted members) will receive training in relation to regulations 16, 17 & 18,

(e) whether Wirral Council will make charges to the press or public for any copies of documents requested under the regulations,

(f) when and how it’ll be explained to officers the implications of regulation 22, which is punishable by a £200 fine and make it a criminal offence to obstruct people or refuse to supply documents to people exercising their rights under the Regulations and

(g) which named officer/s (and their job titles) will be responsible (or even a point of contact for the public) for this area?

Mayor Cllr Gerry Ellis 27:04 to 27:06
Cllr Ann McLachlan 27:09 to 27:40
Mayor Cllr Gerry Ellis 27:40 to 27:42
John Brace 27:42 to 27:49
Mayor Cllr Gerry Ellis 27:49 to 27:52
Surjit Tour 27:52 to 28:05
Mayor Cllr Gerry Ellis 28:05 to 28:08
Cllr Jeff Green 28:08 to 28:21
Mayor Cllr Gerry Ellis 28:21 to 28:34

9. MATTERS REFERRED FROM OVERVIEW AND SCRUTINY COMMITTEES 28:34 to 28:41
Mayor Cllr Gerry Ellis 28:34 to 28:41

10. NOTICES OF MOTION 28:41 to 46:43
Mayor Cllr Gerry Ellis 28:41 to 28:50

Cllr Phil Davies 28:50 to 29:20
Cllr Jeff Green 29:20 to 29:22
Mayor Cllr Gerry Ellis 29:22 to 29:35

11. MATTERS FOR DEBATE
5. MOTION: HILLSBOROUGH INDEPENDENT PANEL REPORT

Proposed by Councillor Paul Hayes (7 minutes)
Seconded by Councillor Jeff Green (3 minutes)

(1) This Council remembers the death of the 96 who lost their lives going to a
football match in Sheffield’s Hillsborough stadium on April 15 1989,
including twelve citizens of this borough.

(2) Council welcomes the full and unambiguous apology from the Prime
Minister on behalf of the Government for the length of time it has taken to
discover the truth of how those who should have protected our citizens
actually behaved and commends the tenacity, dignity and courage of the
friends and family of those who lost their lives. They have tirelessly pursued

a campaign for truth and justice whilst the burden of grief lays heavy on their
hearts, their bravery and determination serves as an example to us all.

(3) Council welcomes the publication of the report by the Hillsborough
Independent Panel, and on behalf of the people of Wirral, Council thanks all
members of the Panel for finally succeeding in what previous enquiries have
failed to do: uncovering the truth.

(4) Council believes that after truth justice must follow. Council urges all
prosecuting authorities to consider the findings of the Hillsborough
Independent Panel and asks them to relentlessly pursue those culpable for
the deaths of so many and the subsequent attempt to evade justice by
repeated lies in a concerted attempt to lay the blame with brave survivors
and fans.

(5) Council again repudiates the views of those who have peddled lies about
Liverpool fan’s involvement in this tragedy. We hope those guilty of this
horrendous slander are now silenced by their shame.

(6) Council therefore resolves:

(i). To ask that the Chief Executive, on behalf of the Council, writes to the
Hillsborough Families Support Group, the Hillsborough Justice
Campaign and Hope for Hillsborough to express our continued support
for their campaigns for justice and thanking them for their steadfast
examples of courage and dignity.

(ii). To ask that the Acting Director of Children’s Services, following the
recent example of certain Liverpool Schools, seeks to facilitate a
discussion between the Head Teachers of Wirral’s Schools on how
learning about the Hillsborough Stadium disaster can be incorporated
into their school’s curriculum; ensuring that all future generations know
the truth of what happened on that day.

Right of Reply: Councillor Paul Hayes (7 minutes)

Cllr Phil Davies 29:35 to 29:37
Mayor Cllr Gerry Ellis 29:37 to 29:44
Cllr Paul Hayes 29:44 to 35:53
Mayor Cllr Gerry Ellis 35:53 to 35:58
Cllr Phil Davies 35:58 to 39:08
Mayor Cllr Gerry Ellis 39:08 to 39:09
Deputy Mayor Cllr Dave Mitchell 39:09 to 40:15
Mayor Cllr Gerry Ellis 40:15 to 40:24
Cllr Jeff Green 40:24 to 43:36
Mayor Cllr Gerry Ellis 43:36 to 44:20

VOTE
FOR: 63
AGAINST 0(NIL)
ABSTENTION 0(NIL)

Motion 5 is passed 63:0:0

Surjit Tour 44:20 to 46:00
Mayor Cllr Gerry Ellis 46:00 to 46:09
Cllr Phil Davies 46:09 to 46:28
Mayor Cllr Gerry Ellis 46:29 to 46:42

10 MINUTE ADJOURNMENT

Continues at Council Wirral Council 16th October 2012 Part 2 of 4.

Employment and Appointments Committee (Special) Wirral Council 18th September 2012

 

Employment and Appointments Committee
18 September 2012

ITEM 2

ADDITIONAL RESOLUTION 18.9

That the Chief Executive undertakes all requisite employment actions and steps arising from the above recommendations including all necessary and appropriate consultation with Chief Officers (as part of the next stage of this restructure process) in line with the Council’s relevant policies, which shall include placing all affected Council officers ‘at risk’ of redundancy.

 

Town Hall drama: Labour’s lost the plot – more playground politics

Town Hall drama: Labour’s lost the plot – more playground politics

Town Hall drama: Labour’s lost the plot – more playground politics

                              

Last night’s full council meeting at Wallasey Town Hall certainly had some firsts:-

a) the first time a Labour councillor has refused to answer a question at Public Question Time
b) the first time two journalists have been asked to leave (highly irregular and illegal) from the Council chamber merely for exercising their rights under Wirral Council’s constitution to ask questions (and as a result irking Cllr. Harry Smith).

As I really doubt Cllr. Harry Smith is aware of the law on this I will quote it here (with a little underlining of the relevant points):-

"Public Bodies (Admission to Meetings) Act 1960

1 Admission of public to meetings of local authorities and other bodies.

…….

(4) Where a meeting of a body is required by this Act to be open to the public during the proceedings or any part of them, the following provisions shall apply, that is to say,—

(c) while the meeting is open to the public, the body shall not have power to exclude members of the public from the meeting and duly accredited representatives of newspapers attending for the purpose of reporting the proceedings for those newspapers shall, so far as practicable, be afforded reasonable facilities for taking their report and, unless the meeting is held in premises not belonging to the body or not on the telephone, for telephoning the report at their own expense."

As Cllr. Smith well knows the press table is situated in front of the Labour benches in the Council Chamber. There are no "reasonable facilities" in the public gallery as there’s no large flat surface to write on.

It got so bad that to sum up the words of one member of the public (previously a councillor) in the public gallery "My brain hurts and I’m going home". Cllr. Foulkes gave long speeches about how he believes in scrutiny and democracy. However not it seems in respect of any Labour Party councillors. His own councillors heckled both members of the public during the time they asked questions, Cllr Adrian Jones slandered me (why can Labour never get their facts right?) and behaved like spoilt children who’ve had their toys taken away throwing a temper tantrum merely because a couple of people asked one of their councillors questions.

As if Labour councillors wasn’t bad enough and I am being serious now (surely you can’t be serious I hear you say) a senior officer was even heard making racist remarks about my wife. Officers are supposed to be politically neutral and adhere to the officer’s code of conduct.

I am a person who believes in freedom of speech; but until the Labour Party learns some respect and manners; I will continue to be ashamed that I’m represented in Bidston & St. James ward by three Labour Party councillors.

However, I here is a list of the notices of motion/amendments at last night’s meeting, which can be found on Wirral Council’s website.

Bill Norman was made the new Returning Officer. Jim Wilkie will carry on for the next 9 months as Interim Chief Executive.

P.S. I am getting well used to the fact that a 15 minute adjournment ends up being half an hour; why don’t they just say they need 30 minutes to start with?

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