Cllr Brian Kenny: Yeah, thank you Chair, well I’m mind to support the application. First of all the principle as I understand it, we can only make decisions here on sound planning reasons, for no other, no other sort of reasons. I think if you look at the hours that are being proposed I think they are reasonable, anybody would accept that they are reasonable hours, we’re not talking about dogs being groomed at eleven o’clock at night so, errm I think Saturday afternoons and Sundays, I think the hours are reasonable.
Err I think that … also as I say that the conditions are that the garage is soundproofed so we’re not talking about dogs howling day and night. I think if you look at some of the on the late list, some of the reasons objecting to this talks about aggressive dogs. Now I don’t think we could actually reject an application due to dogs which might be aggressive dogs. If there’s aggressive dogs in society it should be dealt within the existing legislation and I don’t think that is an argument itself for actually rejecting this particular application.
Also dogs fouling on the pavement, again I’m quite happy that if dogs foul the pavement it’s up to the owners of the dog to make sure that that dog fouling is cleared up so I don’t think it’s an argument against the planning application we’ve got before us now and it talks about unacceptable hours of operation, as I see it the hours that are being proposed the applicant has said she’s happy with. I don’t think there are the reasons that are acceptable. I think for those reasons, I can’t see any sound planning reasons to reject the application and on that basis I’m minded to support the application. Thank you Chair.
Cllr David Elderton (Chair): Well as I’ve said before, I’m not prepared to continue with this tonight if we’re not allowed, yes, well that’s the point, no point in us giving our input unless it’s noted and I’m asked for it to be noted. I think that’s sensible, we’re all here to make our contribution to what’s going on. So are we happy with that and take a vote on that nominal contribution? All those in favour? Cllr Jerry Williams: No, no, no! Cllr David Elderton (Chair): OK, well this meeting is likely to be a waste of time if you can’t make some notes based on what we believe is contributing to a successful conclusion for all concerned. I’m disappointed but I’m not prepared to make an issue out of it. Can we, any more comments on dog kennels as such? I’ve made my own notes on that and I shall be reporting them to the right places. What’s the next one? Answer: The next one is page 57. Cllr Leah Fraser: Excuse me, sorry but as Dave [Mitchell] said there’s a whip going on, that’s supposed to be declared before the meeting. Cllr David Elderton (Chair): Yes it should! Cllr Leah Fraser: Well they’ve just been told to change their minds! Cllr David Elderton (Chair): Well that’s a whip, so anyway…
Cllr Jerry Williams said it was purely up to [Labour] councillors how they deal with decisions. Cllr David Elderton (Chair): Right, well if that’s the case I’m going to, I’m not wasting a lot of time on this, it’s a long night, I’m going to wind the tape back and I’m going to say I specifically propose as Chairman that this Committee that it should have some comment in the minutes saying the logistics of the issue should be taken into account during the consultation process. Do I have a seconder for that?
Cllr Steve Williams seconds. Cllr David Elderton (Chair): Right, which means that the comment that I am about to formulate, including this certain term, dealing with all party on both sides’ interest in this, that we should ask to be investigated. Can I have a vote on that, without a party whip?
For: 4 (Conservative plus Lib Dem)
Against: 2 (Two Labour, the rest abstained)