Cabinet (Wirral Council) 18th October 2012 Part 2 of 2

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Present

Cllr Phil Davies (Chair)
Cllr Adrian Jones
Cllr Harry Smith
Cllr Tony Smith
Cllr Ann McLachlan
Cllr George Davies
Cllr Brian Kenny
Cllr Pat Hackett
Cllr Chris Meaden

7) Annual Governance Report – Merseyside Pension Fund | 04:24 to 04:45 | Annual Governance Report – Merseyside Pension Fund

The Annual Governance Report for Merseyside Pension Fund was already agreed as part of item 6. However it was agreed again and Cllr Phil Davies thanked David Armstrong.

8) Revenue Monitoring 2012/2013 Month 5 (August 2012) | 04:45 to 14:20 | Revenue Monitoring 2012/2013 Month 5 (August 2012) Supplementary Agenda (1)

Cllr Phil Davies referred to the revised supplementary report on this agenda item. This supplementary report replaced the original agenda item.

Peter Timmins said that the projected overspend had risen from £14.4 million in month 4 to £15.3 million in month 5. He said that this was in part due to a shortfall in projected Technical Services income. He referred to the freeze of the 6th September 2012 and said that the process was explicit and transparent as outlined in appendix 8 (which was available to the public). He referred to the recommendation at 12.2 that just over £1 million (£1,071,638) be agreed as Rejected and returned to balances.

Cllr Phil Davies made a number of comments on the report. He offered to write to the Secretary of State for Communities and Local Government and said he was happy to do this on a cross-party basis with agreement of the other two political parties. He made the recommendation (below) and asked for a seconder. The recommendation was seconded. He asked for any other comments on the report (there were no other comments). The recommendation was agreed.

The Cabinet is asked to agree

a) the rejected freeze items, set out at Appendix 8, in the columns “Rejected”, totalling £1,071,638, as evidenced at para 2.20.

For reference these rejected items are below:-
Week 1 & Week 2 Revenue Freeze (Executive Team) September 2012

Dept Ref Project Title Requested
£
Agreed
£
Suspend
£
Reject
£
Reason for Recommendation
CEX 16 Marketing for Libraries Campaign – Annual Bookfest 1,000 1,000 Undertake campaign by ‘e’, rather than printed.
CEX 18 Marketing for Sport and Recreation Mini Tennis Campaign 1,500 1,500 Undertake campaign by ‘e’, rather than printed.
TEC 22 Replacement Play Area, Central Park, Park Primary School 72,000 72,000 Delay redevelopment until 2013-14
TEC 26 Drainage Improvement Works Higher Bebington Recreation
Ground
50,000 50,000 Delay redevelopment until 2013-14
TEC 27 Drainage Works Municipal Golf Courses, Arrowe Park and
Brackenwood
145,000 145,000 Delay redevelopment until 2013-14
TEC 28 Parks Improvement Works, infrastructure, signage, access and
planting
112,000 112,000 Delay redevelopment until 2013-14
TEC 29 Sites of Special Scientific Interest Higher Level Stewardship
Agreements
11,514 11,514 Accept risk of lower standards in the short term; delay until
2013-14
TEC 33 Parks – General Repairs 76,500 76,500 Accept risk of lower standards in the short term; delay until
2013-14
CORP 34 Local Pay Award £250; check amount (poss £1m) 600,000 600,000 Replace with minimum wage commitment
DASS 36 Your Future Your Choice – flyer for Learning Disabilities event 538 538 Provide on A4 paper
FIN 42 Private Sector Housing – newsletter printing costs 1,586 1,586 Use alternative, e-distribution rather than print
Total 1,071,638

9) Capital Monitoring 2012/2013 Month 5 (August 2012) | 14:20 to 17:25 | Capital Monitoring 2012/2013 Month 5 (August 2012) Supplementary Agenda (2)

Cllr Phil Davies asked Peter Timmins to respond to the Capital Monitoring Report. The Capital Monitoring Report in the Supplementary Agenda replaced the one originally published.

Peter Timmins referred to “key points” on the Capital Monitoring Report and how the Capital changes would save £32,610 from the Revenue Budget next year. He referred to the recommendations.
Cllr Phil Davies talked about the Capital Budget.

Graham Burgess, Interim Chief Executive, said he was happy this morning about something released from the freeze. Quite what was released from the freeze though was impossible to hear due to the twin combination of Graham’s microphone being too far away and Graham speaking down into his papers.
Cllr Phil Davies asked if the recommendations (at 12.1 and 12.2) could be agreed? The recommendations (below were agreed).

12.1 That Cabinet is asked to:
a) Agree the Period 4 net decrease of £1.789 million to the latest 2012-13 Capital Programme (Appendix 1),
b) Agree the revised Capital Programme of £74.473m;
c) Note the spend to date at month 5 of £12m, which represents 16.1% of the revised capital budget, with 42% of the financial year having elapsed;
d) Note the £48.8m of new unsupported borrowing included over the next three years, which will result in approximately a £4.9m additional revenue costs;
e) Note the work to detail the schedule of sites to validate the estimate of capital receipts.
f) Note that a future report will include proposals to cease or reduce schemes arising from a review of the current capital programme

12.2 Cabinet is also asked to agree
a) the rejected freeze items set out in Appendix 2 in the columns ‘rejected’ totalling £1,449,600 as evidenced in paragraph 2.16.

Dept Ref Project Title Requested
£
Agreed
£
Suspend
£
Reject
£
Reason for Recommendation
TEC 12 Tennis Courts and other parks
infrastructure – general repairs
76,500 76,500 Ignore, in Revenue
submission (20/9/12)
TEC 15 Bridges Capital Programme – Multiple Projects 249,600 249,600 Uncommitted sum to be
slipped to next year; remainder of £2.063m budget committed (27/9/12)
 Total 326,100

10) Bank Signatories | 17:25 to 18:10 | Bank Signatories

The changes to the bank signatories were agreed with one amendment. Cllr Phil Davies’s amendment was as follows and all related to Ian E Coleman:-

a) remove Ian E Coleman as signatory on the National Westminster and Santander accounts,
b) remove Ian E Coleman as signatory on the Royal Bank of Scotland, State Street and Northern Trust accounts,

and
c) remove Ian E Coleman as approval on Lloyds TSB accounts (Council and Merseyside Pension Fund accounts)

This was because Ian E Coleman was according to Cllr Phil Davies “no longer with us”. The bank signatories (as amended) outlined in 12.1, 12.2 and 12.2 were agreed.

IMPROVEMENT & GOVERNANCE
11) Committee Referral – Regulation of Investigatory Powers Act 2000 (RIPA) | 18:10 to 22:36 | Committee Referral – Regulation of Investigatory Powers Act 2000 (RIPA) | Audit RIPA Report | Audit RIPA Appendix 1 | Audit RIPA Appendix 2

Cllr Phil Davies pointed out that this was a referral from the Audit and Risk Management Committee. Surjit Tour gave an update on how the provisions in the Protection of Freedoms Act 2011 c.9 would lead to changes in how Wirral Council dealt with applications in the future. He referred to the inspection on the 8th June 2012, under age sales of tobacco and alcohol, antisocial behaviour and how a number of improvements were required.  He said there would be training.

Cllr Adrian Jones said they had to support the recommendations, but he drew attention to the risks of persistent antisocial behaviour, which he thought would go unpunished. He also raised concerns about malicious complaints going undetected and although he supported the principle he hoped they were not throwing “the baby out with the bath water”. He said a large element appeared to be low level crime and pointed out that police numbers were falling. He said he supported the recommendation with misgivings.

Surjit Tour responded to his point about antisocial behaviour by referring to the Protection from Harrassment Act 1997.

Cllr Phil Davies said they they all knew from their surveys and surgeries that antisocial behaviour was often the number one issue and that residents brought up the issue of social blight.

Cllr Adrian Jones asked that that particular element be recorded in the minutes.

Cllr Phil Davies asked if the recommendations were approved (see below).

13.1 Cabinet is requested to:

(1) Note the success of Wirral Council Officers and other partners in securing Local Sustainable Transport Major Bid Funding;

(2) Approve the acceptance of £3,215,116 of Major Bid funding from Merseytravel over the three financial years 2012/13 to 2014/15 of which £1,149,049 is revenue funding, £2,026,550 is capital funding and £39,517 for maintenance;

(3) Authorise the Interim Director of Technical Services in conjunction with the Acting Director of Law, HR and Asset Management to finalise the funding agreement between Wirral Council and Merseytravel (ITA) as the lead authority and accountable body.

(4) Approve the delivery of the programme for 2012/13 as set out in Section 3 of this report including delegated authority to the Interim Director of Technical Services following discussions with the Cabinet Member for Streetscene & Transport Services and Party Spokespersons to approve the identified scheme(s) for delivery in 2012/13.

(5) Request Officers to report to a future meeting on the progress in delivering Local Sustainable Transport Major Bid Funding and provide detailed plans for delivery for 2013/14 onwards.

They were agreed.

STREETSCENE & TRANSPORT
12) Local Sustainable Transport Fund (LSTF) – Acceptance of Major Bid Funding | 22:36 to 32:40 | Local Sustainable Transport Fund (LSTF) – Acceptance of Major Bid Funding | LSTF Appendix

Mark Smith spoke at length about this area. Cllr Adrian Jones asked Mark Smith a question. Mark Smith answered Cllr Adrian Jones’ question. Cllr Adrian Jones responded to Mark Smith’s answer. Cllr Phil Davies commented on the matter. The Cabinet Member for Streetscene and Transport, Cllr Harry Smith said he welcomed the funding and confirmed that £220,000 was going to Area Forums. Cllr Phil Davies said that it was good news that there would be £20,000 per an Area Forum to spend on road safety.  The recommendations were agreed.

13.1 Cabinet is requested to:

(1) Note the success of Wirral Council Officers and other partners in securing Local Sustainable Transport Major Bid Funding;

(2) Approve the acceptance of £3,215,116 of Major Bid funding from Merseytravel over the three financial years 2012/13 to 2014/15 of which £1,149,049 is revenue funding, £2,026,550 is capital funding and £39,517 for maintenance;

(3) Authorise the Interim Director of Technical Services in conjunction with the Acting Director of Law, HR and Asset Management to finalise the funding agreement between Wirral Council and Merseytravel (ITA) as the lead authority and accountable body.

(4) Approve the delivery of the programme for 2012/13 as set out in Section 3 of this report including delegated authority to the Interim Director of Technical Services following discussions with the Cabinet Member for Streetscene & Transport Services and Party Spokespersons to approve the identified scheme(s) for delivery in 2012/13.

(5) Request Officers to report to a future meeting on the progress in delivering Local Sustainable Transport Major Bid Funding and provide detailed plans for delivery for 2013/14 onwards.
There was a sixth recommendation tabled by Cllr Harry Smith at the meeting itself from my recollection.

13) Highways and Engineering Services Contract Award and Management – Action Plan | 32:40 to 36:53 | Highways and Engineering Services Contract Award and Management – Action Plan | Appendix 1 | Appendix 2

Surjit Tour spoke on the response to the Audit Commission’s public interest report. He referred to the Council meeting of the 16th July 2012, the recommendations at 2.2, the action plan at appendix 2 and the 21 recommendations which had been considered at the Improvement Board of the 21st September 2012. He said they they needed to consider and approve the Action Plan, that there would be an update at a future meeting and that all actions would be completed by March 2013. He said about their obligation to publicise the public interest report.

Cllr Ann McLachlan commented on the Action Plan and the Improvement Board’s comments on it. Cllr Phil Davies spoke and referred to a future progress report in January 2013. He asked if things were agreed. The Cabinet agreed.

12.1 That Cabinet approves the PIR – Action Plan set out at Appendix 2 to this report.

CHILDREN’S SERVICES AND LIFELONG LEARNING
14) School Funding Formula | 36:53 to 44:15 | School Funding Formula report

Julia Hassall spoke on this report. She said the final report was to go to the Education Funding Agency by the 31st October 2012. The Cabinet Member, Cllr Tony Smith spoke about the proposed changes. It was agreed.

RECOMMENDATIONS

1. Cabinet agree to proceed with the proposals described in this report for the
mainstream School Funding and High Needs Provision.

2. Cabinet agrees to the place changes in maintained specialist provision detailed
in this report.

ADULT SOCIAL CARE AND PUBLIC HEALTH
15) Fees for Residential and Nursing Home Care | 44:15 to 44:20 | Fees for Residential and Nursing Home Care report Fees for Residential and Nursing Home Care |  Equality Impact Assessment

Cllr Phil Davies pointed out that item 15 had already been dealt with.

16) Any Other Urgent Business Approved by the Chair (Part 1) | 44:20 to 44:25

Cllr Phil Davies said he was not aware of Any Other Business.

17) N/A
18) Any Other Urgent Business Approved by the Chair (Part 2) | 44:25 to 44:31

Cllr Phil Davies said he was not aware of Any Other Business and closed the meeting. 

Declaration of interest: The author of this blog post has a close relative in receipt of a Merseyside Pension Fund pension.

Cabinet (Wirral Council) 18th October 2012 Part 1 of 2

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Present

Cllr Phil Davies (Chair)
Cllr Adrian Jones
Cllr Harry Smith
Cllr Tony Smith
Cllr Ann McLachlan
Cllr George Davies
Cllr Brian Kenny
Cllr Pat Hackett
Cllr Chris Meaden

Part 1 of 2
Welcome | 00:01 to 00:39
1) Declarations of Interest | 00:39 to 01:46

Cllr Phil Davies Item 14 (School Funding Formula) Wirral Metropolitan College Governor
Cllr Phil Davies Item 14 (School Funding Formula) Gillbrook Primary School Governor
Cllr Phil Davies Item 14 (School Funding Formula) Woodlands Primary School Governor
Cllr George Davies Item 14 (School Funding Formula) Bidston Avenue Primary School Governor
Cllr George Davies Item 14 (School Funding Formula) St Anselms School Governor
Cllr Adrian Jones Item 14 (School Funding Formula) Oldershaw School Governor
Cllr Brian Kenny Item 14 (School Funding Formula) Mersey Park Primary School Governor
Cllr Brian Kenny Item 14 (School Funding Formula) St Werburghs RC Primary School Governor
Cllr Ann McLachlan Item 14 (School Funding Formula) Wirral Metropolitan College Governor
Cllr Ann McLachlan Item 14 (School Funding Formula) Priory Primary School Governor
Cllr Chris Meaden Item 14 (School Funding Formula) Bedford Drive School Governor
Cllr Pat Hackett Item 14  (School Funding Formula)
Cllr Brian Kenny Item 14  (School Funding Formula)
Cllr Harry Smith Item 15 (Fees for residential and nursing homes) by virtue of his brother-in-law

2) Minutes 01:46 to 02:08 | Minutes of meeting of 27th September 2012

The minutes were agreed.

15) Fees for Residential and Nursing Home Care | 02:08 to 14:53 | Fees for Residential and Nursing Home Care report |  Equality Impact Assessment

The Chair (Cllr Phil Davies) asked Graham Hodkinson, Director of Adult Social Services to introduce the report. Graham Hodkinson introduced the report and mentioned the current oversupply of two hundred beds across the 111 care homes.

The Chair (Cllr Phil Davies) gave apologies for the absent Cabinet Member for Public Health and Social Care, Cllr Anne McArdle who was “poorly”. He said she had read the report and had a “keen interest in it”. He said that they would consult on option 2, with a further report on the 29th November 2012. He said that Cabinet Members had received a communication from WCA Limited about their feelings on the work so far. The recommendations at 14 were agreed which were as follows:

14.1 It is recommended that:

i) the fee framework reflecting actual cost as set out in Option 2, is presented to providers for consultation with a further report presented to Cabinet on 29 November taking account of the views of providers prior to final agreement and implementation.

ii) all old contracts based on 2010/2011 to be terminated by giving the required 3 months written termination notice and that all payments following this period are made at the fee level set for 2012/2013.

iii) the Council only contract for residential and nursing care using the current contract.

iv) once residential and nursing rates are agreed it is proposed that further work will be undertaken to establish variations to the model for specialist providers.

v) the revised fees are back dated to 9 April 2012 and that financial contingencies are explored to allow this to be achieved within the Council’s budget; as a consequence of this work it is proposed to build the agreed fee levels into the budget 2013/2014.

The Cabinet (after meeting for just under fifteen minutes) adjourned to allow members of the public who were there for agenda item 15 to leave the room.

ADJOURNMENT

When the adjournment finished, the Cabinet meeting resumed.

Part 2 of 2

FINANCE

3) Annual Governance Statement | 00:20 to 01:30 |  Annual Governance Statement report |  Appendix 1 |  Appendix 2

David Armstrong spoke on the Annual Governance Statement. Cllr Phil Davies spoke about the Annual Governance Statement. The recommendation at 12.1 was agreed.

That the revised Annual Governance Statement for 2011/12 be agreed.

4) Statement of Accounts 2011/2012 | 01:30 to 02:15 | Statement of Accounts 2011/2012 report | Appendix 1 | Appendix 2

David Armstrong spoke on the Statement of Accounts 2011/2012 and referred to the “one small variation”. Cllr Phil Davies said it had been discussed in previous meetings. The recommendation (below) was agreed.

That Cabinet agrees the Statement of Accounts for 2011/12 and the Annual Governance Report.

5) Annual Governance Report – Wirral Council | 02:15 to 03:39 | Annual Governance Report – Wirral Council report

David Armstrong said that the Annual Governance Report had already been to the Audit and Risk Management Committee. He referred to the public interest report. Cllr Phil Davies asked Cllr Ann McLachlan to make some comments. Cllr Ann McLachlan referred to the Improvement Plan. Cllr Phil Davies asked if it was agreed. It was agreed.

6) Statement of Accounts 2011/2012 Merseyside Pension Fund | 03:39 to 04:24 | Statement of Accounts 2011/2012 Merseyside Pension Fund report | Appendix

David Armstrong referred to the “unqualified opinion” on the 2011/2012 Statement of Accounts for the Merseyside Pension Fund. Cllr Phil Davies said this was “excellent” and the recommendation (below) at 12.1 was agreed.

That Cabinet agrees the Statement of Accounts for 2011/12 and the Annual Governance Report.

Continued at Part 2.

Council (Wirral Council) Monday 16th October 2012

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Monday’s Council meeting, agenda, reports pack and supplementary agenda.

Council (Wirral Council) 16th October 2012 Part 1 of 4

Mayor Cllr Gerry Ellis 00:01 to 00:16
Please sit down please. Welcome to the Council meeting. The first item is in fact the Mayor’s Chaplain to take prayers. Thank you.
Mayor’s Chaplain 00:24 to 02:28
Mayor Cllr Gerry Ellis 02:38 to 03:02

Agenda Item 1 DECLARATIONS OF INTEREST 02:40 to 07:58
Mayor Cllr Gerry Ellis 02:40 to 03:02
Cllr Ann McLachlan 03:02 to 3:15
Mayor Cllr Gerry Ellis 3:15 to 3:17
Cllr Denise Realey 3:17 to 3:22
Mayor Cllr Gerry Ellis 3:22 to 3:26
Cllr Denise Roberts 3:26 to 3:39
Mayor Cllr Gerry Ellis 3:39 to 3:41
Cllr Ron Abbey 3:41 to 3:48
Mayor Cllr Gerry Ellis 3:48 to 3:51
Cllr Stuart Whittingham 3:51 to 3:58
Mayor Cllr Gerry Ellis 3:58 to 4:00
Cllr Christina Muspratt 4:00 to 4:11
Mayor Cllr Gerry Ellis 4:11 to 4:13
Cllr Harry Smith 4:13 to 4:23
Mayor Cllr Gerry Ellis 4:23 to 4:24
Cllr Steve Niblock 4:24 to 4:30
Mayor Cllr Gerry Ellis 4:30 to 4:32
Cllr Anita Leech 4:32 to 4:35
Mayor Cllr Gerry Ellis 4:35 to 4:37
Cllr Mike Sullivan 4:37 to 4:48
Mayor Cllr Gerry Ellis 4:48 to 4:49
Cllr Darren Dodd 4:49 to 4:59
Mayor Cllr Gerry Ellis 4:59 to 5:01
Cllr Paul Doughty 5:01 to 5:14
Mayor Cllr Gerry Ellis 5:14 to 5:16
Cllr Tom Harney 5:16 to 5:23
Mayor Cllr Gerrry Ellis 5:23 to 5:28
Cllr Steve Williams 5:28 to 5:42
Mayor Cllr Gerry Ellis 5:42 to 5:44
Cllr Don McCubbin 5:44 to 5:55
Mayor Cllr Gerry Ellis 5:55 to 5:57
Cllr Lesley Rennie 5:57 to 6:25
Mayor Cllr Gerry Ellis 6:25 to 6:26
Cllr Jeff Green 6:26 to 6:41
Mayor Cllr Gerry Ellis 6:41 to 6:43
Cllr Chris Blakeley 6:43 to 6:51
Mayor Cllr Gerry Ellis 6:51 to 6:54
Deputy Mayor Cllr Dave Mitchell 6:54 to 6:59
Mayor Cllr Gerry Ellis 6:59 to 7:00
Cllr Wendy Clements 7:00 to 7:04
Mayor Cllr Gerry Ellis 7:04 to 7:05
Cllr Leah Fraser 7:06 to 7:09
Mayor Cllr Gerry Ellis 7:09 to 7:10
Cllr Moira McLaughlin 7:10 to 7:17
Mayor Cllr Gerry Ellis 7:18 to 7:27
Cllr Geoffrey Watt 7:27 to 7:32
Mayor Cllr Gerry Ellis 7:32 to 7:38
Cllr Mike Hornby 7:38 to 7:47
Mayor Cllr Gerry Ellis 7:47 to 7:58

2. MAYOR’S COMMUNICATIONS 7:58 to 10:45
Mayor Cllr Gerry Ellis 7:58 to 10:26
Cllr Chris Blakeley 10:28 to 10:34
Mayor Cllr Gerry Ellis 10:34 to 10:36
Cllr Bill Davies 10:37 to 10:40
Mayor Cllr Gerry Ellis 10:40 to 10:45

3. PETITIONS 10:45 to 11:37
Mayor Cllr Gerry Ellis 10:45 to 10:52
Cllr Brian Kenny 10:52 to 11:06
Mayor Cllr Gerry Ellis 11:06 to 11:09
Cllr Harry Smith 11:09 to 11:27
Mayor Cllr Gerry Ellis 11:27 to 11:37

4. MINUTES (16th July 2012) 11:37 to 11:53
Mayor Cllr Gerry Ellis 11:37 to 11:53

5. LEADERS ANNOUNCEMENTS 11:53 to 19:17
Mayor Cllr Gerry Ellis 11:53 to 11:57
Cllr Phil Davies 11:57 to 18:40
Mayor Cllr Gerry Ellis 18:40 to 19:17

6. MATTERS REQUIRING APPROVAL BY THE COUNCIL 19:18 to 25:09
Mayor Cllr Gerry Ellis 19:18 to 19:43
Cllr Phil Gilchrist 19:43 to 20:45
Cllr Phil Davies 20:47 to 22:03
Mayor Cllr Gerry Ellis 22:03 to 22:39
Surjit Tour leaves
Mayor Cllr Gerry Ellis 22:50 to 25:09

7. MATTERS FOR NOTING 25:09 to 25:18
Mayor Cllr Gerry Ellis 25:09 to 25:18

8. QUESTIONS 25:18 to 28:34
Mayor Cllr Gerry Ellis 25:18 to 25:29
John Brace 25:32 to 27:04
Question to Cabinet Member for Improvement and Governance (Cllr Ann McLachlan)

Q. Please could you provide a written and/or verbal answer to the following question please.

The introduction of The Local Authorities (Executive Arrangements) (Meetings and Access to Information) (England) Regulations 2012 which came into force on the 10th September 2012, changed Wirral Council’s legal obligations when it comes to holding public meetings in relation to some committees. The new regulations cover Cabinet, committees of Cabinet and some other committees and also put further duties on officers (and in some cases councillors) to record decisions made, reasons for decisions, other options considered and any conflicts of interest (and any associated notices of dispensation).

Can you explain please:-

(a) what specific committees at Wirral Council (and any joint committees or subcommittees) are considered to be “decision-making bodies” as described in the legislation,

(b) how regulation 9 will work in practice at Wirral Council with regards to delegated decisions by Cabinet Members,

(c) how the inspection arrangements for members of the public (regulations 14, 15 & 21) will actually work in practice,

(d) when and whether councillors (and co-opted members) will receive training in relation to regulations 16, 17 & 18,

(e) whether Wirral Council will make charges to the press or public for any copies of documents requested under the regulations,

(f) when and how it’ll be explained to officers the implications of regulation 22, which is punishable by a £200 fine and make it a criminal offence to obstruct people or refuse to supply documents to people exercising their rights under the Regulations and

(g) which named officer/s (and their job titles) will be responsible (or even a point of contact for the public) for this area?

Mayor Cllr Gerry Ellis 27:04 to 27:06
Cllr Ann McLachlan 27:09 to 27:40
Mayor Cllr Gerry Ellis 27:40 to 27:42
John Brace 27:42 to 27:49
Mayor Cllr Gerry Ellis 27:49 to 27:52
Surjit Tour 27:52 to 28:05
Mayor Cllr Gerry Ellis 28:05 to 28:08
Cllr Jeff Green 28:08 to 28:21
Mayor Cllr Gerry Ellis 28:21 to 28:34

9. MATTERS REFERRED FROM OVERVIEW AND SCRUTINY COMMITTEES 28:34 to 28:41
Mayor Cllr Gerry Ellis 28:34 to 28:41

10. NOTICES OF MOTION 28:41 to 46:43
Mayor Cllr Gerry Ellis 28:41 to 28:50

Cllr Phil Davies 28:50 to 29:20
Cllr Jeff Green 29:20 to 29:22
Mayor Cllr Gerry Ellis 29:22 to 29:35

11. MATTERS FOR DEBATE
5. MOTION: HILLSBOROUGH INDEPENDENT PANEL REPORT

Proposed by Councillor Paul Hayes (7 minutes)
Seconded by Councillor Jeff Green (3 minutes)

(1) This Council remembers the death of the 96 who lost their lives going to a
football match in Sheffield’s Hillsborough stadium on April 15 1989,
including twelve citizens of this borough.

(2) Council welcomes the full and unambiguous apology from the Prime
Minister on behalf of the Government for the length of time it has taken to
discover the truth of how those who should have protected our citizens
actually behaved and commends the tenacity, dignity and courage of the
friends and family of those who lost their lives. They have tirelessly pursued

a campaign for truth and justice whilst the burden of grief lays heavy on their
hearts, their bravery and determination serves as an example to us all.

(3) Council welcomes the publication of the report by the Hillsborough
Independent Panel, and on behalf of the people of Wirral, Council thanks all
members of the Panel for finally succeeding in what previous enquiries have
failed to do: uncovering the truth.

(4) Council believes that after truth justice must follow. Council urges all
prosecuting authorities to consider the findings of the Hillsborough
Independent Panel and asks them to relentlessly pursue those culpable for
the deaths of so many and the subsequent attempt to evade justice by
repeated lies in a concerted attempt to lay the blame with brave survivors
and fans.

(5) Council again repudiates the views of those who have peddled lies about
Liverpool fan’s involvement in this tragedy. We hope those guilty of this
horrendous slander are now silenced by their shame.

(6) Council therefore resolves:

(i). To ask that the Chief Executive, on behalf of the Council, writes to the
Hillsborough Families Support Group, the Hillsborough Justice
Campaign and Hope for Hillsborough to express our continued support
for their campaigns for justice and thanking them for their steadfast
examples of courage and dignity.

(ii). To ask that the Acting Director of Children’s Services, following the
recent example of certain Liverpool Schools, seeks to facilitate a
discussion between the Head Teachers of Wirral’s Schools on how
learning about the Hillsborough Stadium disaster can be incorporated
into their school’s curriculum; ensuring that all future generations know
the truth of what happened on that day.

Right of Reply: Councillor Paul Hayes (7 minutes)

Cllr Phil Davies 29:35 to 29:37
Mayor Cllr Gerry Ellis 29:37 to 29:44
Cllr Paul Hayes 29:44 to 35:53
Mayor Cllr Gerry Ellis 35:53 to 35:58
Cllr Phil Davies 35:58 to 39:08
Mayor Cllr Gerry Ellis 39:08 to 39:09
Deputy Mayor Cllr Dave Mitchell 39:09 to 40:15
Mayor Cllr Gerry Ellis 40:15 to 40:24
Cllr Jeff Green 40:24 to 43:36
Mayor Cllr Gerry Ellis 43:36 to 44:20

VOTE
FOR: 63
AGAINST 0(NIL)
ABSTENTION 0(NIL)

Motion 5 is passed 63:0:0

Surjit Tour 44:20 to 46:00
Mayor Cllr Gerry Ellis 46:00 to 46:09
Cllr Phil Davies 46:09 to 46:28
Mayor Cllr Gerry Ellis 46:29 to 46:42

10 MINUTE ADJOURNMENT

Continues at Council Wirral Council 16th October 2012 Part 2 of 4.

Council 9th February 2012 – Youth Parliament – Don’t mention the l word!

On Tuesday evening the Mayor welcomed young people participating in the Youth Parliament event and told everyone that he had started his career in the Council Chamber representing a youth club in New Brighton.

The first motion was calling for more sporting provision for young people on the Wirral. A Youth Parliament member called Leah explained that this was to help people with their self-confidence and team building skills. An opposer to the motion called Jessica called for a more diverse range of youth activities instead such as cooking, arts and foreign languages.

Cllr Walter Smith commented that there were more sporting opportunities now than in his youth and referred to his granddaughter at Upton Hall school. Various young people said the existing sporting provision wasn’t advertised enough. Another called Lauren referred to the Wirral Youth Theatre activities. Dylan suggested they use schools left empty during the holidays for sport.

Cllr Jerry Williams referred to the upcoming marathon and said although he was sixty, he had run thirty-six marathons.

A vote was taken and the motion was lost by 14 votes to 38.

The second motion was that all Wirral parks have either an internet cafe or wi-fi cafe so that young people could meet after school. Courtney said that she believed this would increase the number visiting the parks and would be used throughout the day by others. Hannah said that there were already youth clubs and it was pointless spending lots of money on such things.

Ricky said that more young people had internet access on their phones or at the local library and that they were “already a nation of zombies” so he disagreed with the motion.

George said that many families couldn’t afford internet access. Ffion said they could make money from refreshments but didn’t think it was well thought through. Charlotte opposed it and thought it would lead to conflict between rival groups.

Charlotte spoke saying it was a really good idea but with the cuts she couldn’t see it happening. Another young person said they could get half an hour free at their local library. Another two young people spoke against the idea.

Josh agreed with the motion, but said the youth clubs were safer. Alex thought it wouldn’t be safe and would intensify gang culture. Another young person said the wi-fi at Birkenhead Park pavilion was turned off when the cafe shuts at four.

Dylan thought it was a bad motion and Alan thought that people would just use it for playing games. Cllr Steve Williams spoke about the perception that young people had that the park was not a safe place. Cllr Patricia Glasman asked if young people would allow older people to use the internet cafes?

Josh said that older people could use the internet in work. Rosie said that no one goes to her local library and was interrupted by heckling. At the end of the debate there was a vote. Six were for, 52 were against, so the motion was lost.

The next motion was from Oldershaw school and asked for Wirral Council to guarantee employment opportunities for young people by insisting in contracts that a certain % of employment was local and a certain % apprenticeships.

Charles spoke first and thought that colleges should make the request rather than the local Council. Alex referred to young people going to university, getting into debt and coming out without a job.

Lauren thought that people at a private school received a better education than at a comprehensive. Graham talked about how if more people were in work then they would be less reliant on local government and crime would fall.

Ricky talked about how people worked hard to achieve good grades, but due to circumstances couldn’t go to university because of the expense. George spoke about kids in poverty and how youths should be a priority.

More young people spoke about qualifications. Lauren spoke about one to one sessions in her school in Maths and English. Cllr Adrian Jones said as a governor of Oldershaw how impressed he was by Megan Jones’ speech and how he did agree with the thrust of what she said. He also congratulated Charles Keeth on his speech.

Charlotte referred to how although she was hoping to go to university, she would take work in a coffee shop for eight months.

Another young person said that a young person got good grades at GCSE because of the effort that was put in.

Cllr Bernie Mooney congratulated the young people and said she wishes the adult debaters would take lessons from the discussions. She said that they had a duty that the aspirations of young people were upheld, that they had an excellent education department and she agreed that companies coming to Wirral to make their fortune should share it through an obligation to employ adults and young people as apprentices.

Cllr Cox spoke as a previous apprentice himself, he believed apprenticeships were the future, although he had gone on to university later and studied for a degree. He had done an HNC and been paid at the same time.

Ryan said it was important to give young people jobs especially when their parents didn’t have jobs. The motion went to the vote that Council contracts would guarantee 25% youth jobs. It was passed by 36 votes to 20.

The next motion was that areas of low life expectancy were due to lifestyle choices.

This sparked a debate about the differences between the West and East of Wirral and how where you were brought up affected your views, stereotypes and people’s views of poverty. This motion was lost by 8 votes to 42.

On the last motion, Cllr Watt declared a prejudicial interest and left. This motion was that councillors, MPs and officers should have their expenses cut.

Many young people spoke in favour of this. Councillor Les Rowlands spoke against, saying that he was paid less as a councillor than in his self-employed job and that some chose not to claim expenses. This motion was lost by 11 votes to 22. Cllr Blakeley asked for his abstention to be recorded.

The Mayor quipped that if the motion had passed he would’ve bought bicycle clips and a mayoral bicycle.

The last motion was that police officers should be armed with guns. There were a few speakers (mainly against) and that motion was lost by 10 votes to 40. At the end the Mayor invited the three party leaders to speak.

Cllr Tom Harney said that standards had been extremely high and that each year the standard was getting better, but that if people had any suggestions to let him know.

Cllr Wendy Clements said it had been interesting and exciting and that people had listened to each other, which she commented was rare, she congratulated everyone and on the standard of debate.

Cllr Phil Davies said it had been a fantastic evening and said he had been tempted to join in on the debate on councillor’s allowances. He said that many speeches were well researched and had a good evidence base. He thanks the staff for organising the event and said it had been a long day for those who had been there since the morning.

The Mayor thanked Maureen McDaid and the minutes of last year’s meeting were agreed. The meeting then closed.

Bidston & Claughton Area Forum 3rd October 2012 Part 5

Continued from Part 4.

Donnie said that was an interesting point and that the ten-year life of houses on Bidston Rise had been increased to thirty years. He wondered if there would be arguments for one or two bedroom bungalows.

Cllr Foulkes said that an important point was the ability of the registered social landlords to borrow money as there would be much less money coming in and they would have difficulty collecting the rent, which would terrify the banks. He said that they were a worse bet than they had ever been in history as a developer, but he had been told by some politicians that this change had been popular in the South-East.

A person introducing herself as Jill Smith, a project support officer with the Women’s Centre said that they were a small charity, but women were coming in were in an absolute crisis over fear of what was going on. She said it would have a big impact, that they received no statutory funding, but that the problem was only going to get bigger. Jill Smith said that they worked with women with mental health or emotional problems.

Cllr Foulkes said they were seeing more people in their surgeries.

Cllr Harry Smith referred to the lady who runs the food bank.

Jill Smith said that all charities would be put under pressure.

Reverend Jenny Gillies from St. Oswalds said that they should be creative over letting people know. She said they never used to have people wander off the streets, but there was confusion over Housing Benefit. Jenny said that Area Forums needed to think creatively over inviting the voluntary sector.

Cllr Foulkes said the demand on the third sector, was going to turn into a flood. They were asking people who had the opportunity in the consultation as to what services they should or could provide. However he wasn’t in Paddy’s camp as he didn’t like protests and leading people down cul-de-sacs.

Paddy said they should campaign to educate people to make rational decisions.

Cllr Foulkes withdrew his remark about Paddy.

Paddy accepted the apology.

Cllr Roberts asked for presentations from the partners.

Jim Thompson (Community Safety) said that Wirral was a safe borough, crime was falling, but despite the recession, crime hadn’t shot up due to vigilance. He said that people shouldn’t leave their houses in darkness when they go out or their windows open, he encouraging people to lock their doors and if they got people knocking on doors asking people to give them £200 for insulation, they were to ignore them and ring Trading Standards or the police on 101.

Leonora told the Area Forum of her experience of this.

Jim Thompson said that if it sounds too good to be true, it normally is. He said that nobody comes from Wirral Council and says they’ll take you to the cashpoint, well not yet (he joked) and that if people were concerned to ring the 101 number. They had a multi agency team looking at crime and disorder and information was shared so they could identify hotspots from the calls and prioritise.

A member of the public said they had called 101 when cars had been spray painted and that the police had been helpful and that they had been given the number for crime prevention, but after three days they hadn’t had an answer.

Jim Thompson said that the four crime prevention officers no longer existed, but if she wanted advice to ring 666 5443 and they would find somebody who could answer her query.

The member of the public said that if someone called from the police would the number be withheld?

Jim Thompson said the police and Council did call from withheld numbers and suggested that people don’t leave their house in darkness. He said the burglary rate was now less than twenty per a thousand whereas when he’d started it was forty-five.

Steve Preston said that 80% of burglaries were opportunistic, but this was no consolation for the 20% that weren’t.

Jim Thompson said that if it looks occupied they’d just walk past.

Paul Murphy, Merseyside Fire and Rescue Service said they were looking at a £9.2 million cut, but that the Chair was on the Fire Authority. Their target of 13,000 Home Fire Safety Checks (which would still be free) and he was asking if people knew of any vulnerable households to tell them, but that they were working with the Safeguarding Adults Board to identify people.

From the 22nd October they would be removing debris in the lead up to Bonfire Night, he gave out statistics on accidental dwelling fires, last year there had been eleven, so far this year there had been five. They had completed 622 Home Fire Safety Checks since the start of the year. On deliberate secondary fires there had been 222 last year and 74 so far this year. He referred to the tragic road traffic fatality in Claughton, but that road traffic collisions were low compared to other Merseyside authorities. He gave the phone number of 0800 731 5958 which could be used for Home Fire Safety Checks or from 22nd October to report rubbish that needed to be cleared. He said that Birkenhead Fire Station was due for completion in 2013.

Cllr Harry Smith asked if they would be based with the ambulance station?

Paul Murphy answered that in Croxteth they shared the same building. Cllr Roberts said there were no plans to merge.

Donnie asked a question about the ring fenced road safety funding for Area Forums?

Cllr Roberts asked if he was referring to road traffic accidents?

Donnie said he was referring to the bus hitting the car and the tragic fatality, but also the 20mph zones?

Cllr Foulkes said that the money allocated locally was a small fraction of the Highways Department budget, but that money would be put sadly where there had already been accidents.

Cllr Harry Smith referred to hotspots.

Cllr Foulkes said that after a major accident or fatality there was an investigation to see if it could have been prevented, such as the lights being purposely staggered slower but that he wouldn’t preempt the investigation.

George Thomas said he was frustrated by the cuts and drew attention to November 15th when it would be voting day for a Police Commissioner. He said it was “Tory ideology” and costing £100 million to create the position. He said the Chief Constable would be paid £155,000 and the Commissioner £85,000 but that independents couldn’t afford to run as they needed a deposit of £5,000.

Cllr Roberts said yes, yes.

Cllr George Davies said it was a waste of money.

Cllr Foulkes said he believed in democracy and pleaded with people to get out and vote.

Cllr Harry Smith said he wanted people to vote for the Labour candidate.

Jim Thompson said that Home Office funds, currently £122,000 were given to the local authority, as well as £150,000 to £160,000 from the Area Based Grant, however from April 2013 this would be given to the Police and Crime Commissioner instead.

Cllr George Davies disagreed with Jim Thompson over the change. He said he objection was that the change to a Police and Crime Commissioner was that it was one person compared to seventeen on the police authority.

Anna said they had a positive event to report as a person was coming to the library to talk about Viking remains.

A member of the public commented on the road conditions and said they were pleased that in the last four months it had been seen to.

Cllr Roberts said as there were no further questions, she would close the formal part of the meeting, the next one would be Tuesday 5th February 2013 in the Bidston ward.

Michelle Gray said she would advertise the venue and write to people.